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Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:11 pm
by coomo
yoda wrote:£5,223 doesn't seem too bad. I haven't seen the car but seems like good value to me.
:lol: if only......

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:56 pm
by inaglasshouse
If you want to know what a fried battery (sealed gel matrix variant) looks like, check out the bulge in the case:

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Like a balloon!

I think I will count that one as a lucky escape. I don't think it would have been a good scene in the luggage compartment, had it let go...

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:13 pm
by Lightweight_911
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I had a similar experience in my 904 replica when a faulty voltage regulator allowed the alternator to overcharge - cooking the Odyssey PC 968 battery & 'frying' the twin MSD spark boxes ...

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Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:07 am
by Jonny Hart
Lightweight_911 wrote:.

I had a similar experience in my 904 replica when a faulty voltage regulator allowed the alternator to overcharge - cooking the Odyssey PC 968 battery & 'frying' the twin MSD spark boxes ...

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This was a good real world test for the over-voltage protection in our CDI+ units.

No frying for Mr Fry’s CDI! :lol:

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:14 am
by inaglasshouse
Jonny Hart wrote: This was a good real world test for the over-voltage protection in our CDI+ units.
No frying for Mr Fry’s CDI! :lol:
Happy to be of service...
Confirmed, no damage to CDI+. Or anything else, in fact, with the exception of some blown headlight bulbs.
Phew.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:58 am
by 911GP
Hi Richard - Do you know what caused it? Was it the voltage regulator or something else?

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:07 am
by stretch
What he said... i have a similar issue. :(

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 12:43 pm
by inaglasshouse
Alternator and regulator both went for test. Both faulty. I ended the investigation there and bought the uprated alternator (which has the regulator built in).

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:17 am
by IanM
inaglasshouse wrote:Alternator and regulator both went for test. Both faulty. I ended the investigation there
What brand was the original alternator? Bosch or Motorola Marchal?

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 7:40 am
by inaglasshouse
Motorola Marchal. Probably the original from the car, since that would be period correct.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:11 pm
by IanM
So, the Bosch would not be period correct?

The PET catalogue lists both brands, so it is confusing.

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:40 pm
by Lightweight_911
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There were at least 3 different makes fitted to early 911's - Bosch, SEV-Marchal & Motorola ...

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Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:25 pm
by inaglasshouse
I did, once upon a time, have info about which was likely fitted in each year. Probably from early s, they like that sort of thing...

For my 70 car I looked at a ton of early 70 reference pics and they all used the Motorola regulator (regulator is specific to the alternator, and easily identified in a decent engine bay photo).

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 5:24 pm
by IanM
Lightweight_911 wrote:.

There were at least 3 different makes fitted to early 911's - Bosch, SEV-Marchal & Motorola ...

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According to the PET catalogue, the SEV-Marchal and Motorola are one and the same, isn't it?

Why were there 2 different alternator brands? Year specific? Country specific?

Which of the two had better reliability and longevity?

Re: 70 S, RHD, Signal Orange, UK->Australia->UK

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 6:02 pm
by Lightweight_911
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Yes, I think that the SEV-Marchal & Motorola alternators are effectively the same part - I seem to remember that the branding depended on the destination ... Motorola was supplied to the US & SEV-Marchal to ROW markets.

I don't know if there was any logic to whether a particular model got a Bosch or SEV-Marchal/Motorola alternator - both brands are listed for '69-'73 models according to the Factory's Technical Specifications booklets ...

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