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- & they're all LHD Graham (apart from a few Ruddspeed RHD conversions) ...
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- & they're all LHD Graham (apart from a few Ruddspeed RHD conversions) ...
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“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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You could throw caution the wind and get something like this V12 Ferrari
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C966062
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C966062
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True Andy, and a -ve for me, but she is 'blinded' by the glamour!
Looking at the OP's question, it is hard to answer, and that is the conclusion I have come to.
Keep the old 911 and look to buy something interesting at a reasonable budget where you might get your money back when tired of it.
For me, it is something like this, spotted today locally:
![Image](https://i.postimg.cc/W3Xz2dd3/P1070799.jpg)
Looking at the OP's question, it is hard to answer, and that is the conclusion I have come to.
Keep the old 911 and look to buy something interesting at a reasonable budget where you might get your money back when tired of it.
For me, it is something like this, spotted today locally:
![Image](https://i.postimg.cc/W3Xz2dd3/P1070799.jpg)
73T 911 Coupe, road/hillclimber 3.2L
Lola t 492 / 3.2 hillclimb racer
Boxster 987 Gen II 2.9
Lola t 492 / 3.2 hillclimb racer
Boxster 987 Gen II 2.9
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Those 6 cylinder Rovers were wonderful cars and beautifully made, the four lite or sports versions look best, but they’re not a great drive and a bit prone to overheating.
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Never driven ANYTHING like these pre/post WW2 cars in my life except having a large Austin Somerset with column change in the mid 70's which was strangely nice.
The Coupe versions of these Rovers are about £20K for pre WW2, but type above are about £10k ish. I guess spares are ok.
The Coupe versions of these Rovers are about £20K for pre WW2, but type above are about £10k ish. I guess spares are ok.
73T 911 Coupe, road/hillclimber 3.2L
Lola t 492 / 3.2 hillclimb racer
Boxster 987 Gen II 2.9
Lola t 492 / 3.2 hillclimb racer
Boxster 987 Gen II 2.9
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Cheers
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Matt.
So Matt, looks like you would have plenty to choose from if you sold your 912.
You certainly shouldn't need to compromise with a decent older classic.
Commenting on the possible old car issues that you raised.
I currently keep a 1959 Lancia Flaminia and I don't need to worry about
''Non existant brakes''. Bentley discovered 4 wheel disc brakes in the mid 1960's and many American cars woke up to them 1970's.
My old Flaminia came with 4 wheel disc brakes as standard equipment in 1959. They operate dual circuit for extra safety and are
as pleasant to use as a modern cars brakes.
'' Shitty build quality “. The Flaminia was hand built in the Pinifarina factory 60 years ago and is still solid as a rock and always passes it's mot with ease.
“ 4 seats or 2+2 “. The Lancia seats 4 adults very comfortably and with it's transaxle layout achieves nearly a 50 /50 weight balance.
“The Lancia Flaminia is one of the best handling cars in the world” - Lancia owner, Enzo Ferrari.
The Flaminia easily cruises at 150KPH on it's original V6 engine and pulls like a train when she's in the mood.Ride quality is wonderful on high profile tyres.
![Image](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48154499162_e8b8254152_z.jpg)
There are plenty of 60 year old cars ( mostly European ) that might surprise you out there. There are also plenty of
60 year old cars that didn't even drive well 60 years ago.
If it's a younger car that you're after for your growing family, why not try a Saab 99 Turbo before prices rise?
Don't forget the Lancia Delta Intergrale. The Delta 1.6 Turbo also handles beautifully, goes pretty well and seats 4 .
Also the Supercharged Volumex coupe or HPE is a hoot to drive but current asking prices are getting hot.
I would have thought that many Alfa's, Lancia's or Fiat's might fit your bill.
Enjoy the search !
So Matt, looks like you would have plenty to choose from if you sold your 912.
You certainly shouldn't need to compromise with a decent older classic.
Commenting on the possible old car issues that you raised.
I currently keep a 1959 Lancia Flaminia and I don't need to worry about
''Non existant brakes''. Bentley discovered 4 wheel disc brakes in the mid 1960's and many American cars woke up to them 1970's.
My old Flaminia came with 4 wheel disc brakes as standard equipment in 1959. They operate dual circuit for extra safety and are
as pleasant to use as a modern cars brakes.
'' Shitty build quality “. The Flaminia was hand built in the Pinifarina factory 60 years ago and is still solid as a rock and always passes it's mot with ease.
“ 4 seats or 2+2 “. The Lancia seats 4 adults very comfortably and with it's transaxle layout achieves nearly a 50 /50 weight balance.
“The Lancia Flaminia is one of the best handling cars in the world” - Lancia owner, Enzo Ferrari.
The Flaminia easily cruises at 150KPH on it's original V6 engine and pulls like a train when she's in the mood.Ride quality is wonderful on high profile tyres.
![Image](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48154499162_e8b8254152_z.jpg)
There are plenty of 60 year old cars ( mostly European ) that might surprise you out there. There are also plenty of
60 year old cars that didn't even drive well 60 years ago.
If it's a younger car that you're after for your growing family, why not try a Saab 99 Turbo before prices rise?
Don't forget the Lancia Delta Intergrale. The Delta 1.6 Turbo also handles beautifully, goes pretty well and seats 4 .
Also the Supercharged Volumex coupe or HPE is a hoot to drive but current asking prices are getting hot.
I would have thought that many Alfa's, Lancia's or Fiat's might fit your bill.
Enjoy the search !
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1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good "..
1971 911 2.2T sold
1970 911 2.2S Sold but remains within DDK
1959 Lancia Flaminia PF Coupe
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Staying with the brand, how about a 944 Turbo S ? Silver roses are hard to find now as good ones are nailed on investment wise. Personally, I couldn't live with the colour or an interior that looks like the cat was sick on it. But after them, Porsche made another 1670 in more palatable colours and later SE's are to the same spec. As are the 100 rhd Turbo cabs and they're all within a £40K budget with change for a throw away MX5 and a trip down memory lane. 944's are at the bottom of their curve but are finally starting to get the respect they deserve. Bulletproof engineering, huge performance from just four cylinders and now that old 911's are stratospheric price wise, where the next generation of classic Porsche enthusiasts are having to turn.
456's are really tempting, but the running costs are just so fierce. If I had to choose an Italian though, with room for the kids and something a bit different, what about a Lancia Gamma coupe?
456's are really tempting, but the running costs are just so fierce. If I had to choose an Italian though, with room for the kids and something a bit different, what about a Lancia Gamma coupe?
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1962 356B super T6 coupe
1964 356C coupe
1969 911E coupe - ex-Steve McQueen - the Mystery Mongrel
1988 928 S4 Sport aka SE - 8th of 42 built
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Alfa Romeo GT junior. That’s what I would get if I sold the 912.
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Lotus Cortina would be a step up, they’re one of the nicest handling/driving cars ever made.
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Hi Matt
If you loved the MX-5 then a lotus Elan may be just the thing, but for me (and whats it worth) the Alfa Giulietta or its Pre 67 (younger sister) Guilia Sprint GT or GTV takes some beating...
What ever you go for your about to have a lot of fun test drives!
All the best
Ian F.
If you loved the MX-5 then a lotus Elan may be just the thing, but for me (and whats it worth) the Alfa Giulietta or its Pre 67 (younger sister) Guilia Sprint GT or GTV takes some beating...
What ever you go for your about to have a lot of fun test drives!
All the best
Ian F.
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Gone but not forgotten
72 2.4 T in Sepia (Charlie)
60s, 70s, 80s, 90s & 00s Alfas
Caterhams (one fast & one very Fast!)
and a few old Lotus.
Still with us
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Alfa Romeo Guilia 105 GT Junior with a 2.0 Twinspark Engine.
I'm building one at present but I would never sell my 912
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I'm building one at present but I would never sell my 912
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1967 912
1994 993
2006 987 S
Mini Cooper S
Cooper MK9
Lotus Elan Sprint
Alfa Romeo GTA-R
1994 993
2006 987 S
Mini Cooper S
Cooper MK9
Lotus Elan Sprint
Alfa Romeo GTA-R
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Seconded.Ashley James wrote:Lotus Cortina would be a step up, they’re one of the nicest handling/driving cars ever made.
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Motorola - PG 2000, locked
'83 Triumph Acclaim - 3sp Auto (cat D)
Singer 3232 - Titanium bobbin, Autothread
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Motorola - PG 2000, locked
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Looking around online, they do seem good value in the present market place.impmad2000 wrote:Lancia Fulvia. And don’t be put off by a 1.3.
Worth looking at for sure.
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Usage will mostly be local runs and over to the mainland. I don't have time for extended European tours as much fun as they seem. LHD is a possibility, I've been there before.Lightweight_911 wrote:We need to establish a few more details before being able to offer suggestions:
Is a LHD model a possibility - or does it have to be RHD ?
What is the budget (£40k ?) ?
What is/would be your usage pattern - European trips, etc ?
etc
Budget is an interesting point, I see that you have 40k which is what I have mine on agreed value for. But these things are a bit " finger in the air" . There seems to be such a big span on prices for 912s these days. I tend to look at it from the "what would I need to spend if I lost this one" perspective. And yes I do realise this is probably a one way trip. Even more reason to get the decision right.