Trip to the Porsche Museum - advice required

[Disco]

Guys,

hope that you are all well! - spring is almost upon us and both my cars are getting itchy to come out.

I'm planning on taking my son to the Porsche museum in Stuttgart - I'm hoping I can get a run around the Nuremberg ring too.

I'm travelling on the eurotunnel from calais and I think this is a 4 day, three nighter. Has anyone done this before and can anyone suggest a decent/ picturesque place to stop off on the way there and on the way back - I'm pretty much sold on the V8 Hotel while in Stuttgart.

at the moment I'm here with my thinking:

Thursday morning Ride over to Reims - catch the sights, have some booze, eat some steak
Friday Reims to Stuttgart should be there by late lunch - have a butchers around the museum- stay in the V8 Hotel - look at car porn in the evening.
Saturday - up early to Nuremberg - quick blast around the track and then start the trip home. - I'm thinking 5/6hours driving max... at the moment, I'm thinking Nancy - but not for any decent reason other than being a large town/city
Sunday - drive home - take my time lunch somewhere along the way - 8pm tunnel back to the UK

so questions I have - will I have enough time on Saturday to do the ring? and then get back to within about 6 hours from Calais?
if I can, what can you recommend, place wise, other than Nancy? - is there anywhere good.

also - is there a better, more car enjoyable route - ?- I'll be taking the turbo, so its a pretty hard ride, and I don't like slim roads much..

what say you all?- any advice appreciated.
thanks
Disco

[Sam]

Don’t go to Nuremberg.

It’s quite a long way from the Nurburgring.

[hot66]

first point .. don't put Nuremberg in your sat nav as you'll find your self in a totally wrong part go Germany

How old is your son ?

Try Nurburgring

Thurs ..... Reims, go to the old circuit just outside Reims and get the photo in front of the old pits. Have a walk around

Reims-Gueux, D27, 51390 Gueux, France

Reims is nice, good car museum there . Obviously big champagne houses to visit . Epernay is also good if you want champagne house to visit

Fri ... Museum is great. Park under it . Genuinely worth getting a guided visit if you can as I learnt quite a bit about specific cars I normally would have just walked past .. but without the guide it is still wonderful . Cafe there is spot on for lunch too ( burgers etc )

Sat ... Nurburg . Sat will be really busy . Be careful ! Go and watch Nurburgring crash videos on YouTube ! Again fantastic place with great atmosphere. Walk around the car park near the track entrance & grab curry wurst from the cafe. The ring and cafe etc is cashless and you need to buy their payment card which you put money on to . Make sure you drive out to the usual spectator corner and enjoy the spectacle . You can easily spend quite a bit of time here as it can be more entertaining than a normal race .

place to watch :

Brünnchen Parking Lot

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eDUi3HRspxt3YhCb7

...... your trip home from here is deffo not via Nancy so you'll need to look at the map again

Guys,

hope that you are all well! - spring is almost upon us and both my cars are getting itchy to come out.

I'm planning on taking my son to the Porsche museum in Stuttgart - I'm hoping I can get a run around the Nuremberg ring too.

I'm travelling on the eurotunnel from calais and I think this is a 4 day, three nighter. Has anyone done this before and can anyone suggest a decent/ picturesque place to stop off on the way there and on the way back - I'm pretty much sold on the V8 Hotel while in Stuttgart.

at the moment I'm here with my thinking:

Thursday morning Ride over to Reims - catch the sights, have some booze, eat some steak
Friday Reims to Stuttgart should be there by late lunch - have a butchers around the museum- stay in the V8 Hotel - look at car porn in the evening.
Saturday - up early to Nuremberg - quick blast around the track and then start the trip home. - I'm thinking 5/6hours driving max... at the moment, I'm thinking Nancy - but not for any decent reason other than being a large town/city
Sunday - drive home - take my time lunch somewhere along the way - 8pm tunnel back to the UK

so questions I have - will I have enough time on Saturday to do the ring? and then get back to within about 6 hours from Calais?
if I can, what can you recommend, place wise, other than Nancy? - is there anywhere good.

also - is there a better, more car enjoyable route - ?- I'll be taking the turbo, so its a pretty hard ride, and I don't like slim roads much..

what say you all?- any advice appreciated.
thanks
Disco

[hot66]

just to add .... if you don't want to go to the Ring, the Furka Pass for example is the same distance away from stuttgart but in the opposite direction .... you could run down to the alps and do some passes and then head back up north

What month are you going ?

[misteralz]

Staying at the V8 Hotel is definitely recommended. The onsite brewery does excellent dunkelweizen which pairs really well with whatever Flammkuchen you desire. If you're there for two nights, then the Böblingen mall is a short walk (past Porsche Böblingen as well) and has a great wee Maultaschen takeaway place. Müller is always worth looking in for their huge toy selection!
Keep your museum tickets - showing them at Mercedes gets you a discount on their museum. It works both ways so think hard about which museum you want to finish on. They're both excellent but in different ways.
Porsche Centrum Stuttgart is no longer, or at least it's no longer across from the museum. That was always worth a look in at - last time I was there they had a 918 and a Carrera GT on the mezzanine level. They also gave me some plate frames when I bought some oil.
As mentioned already - how old's your son? Legoland is maybe an hour along the road and it is ACE.

[Ian Comerford]

Already recommended but worth repeating, if you have time also visit the Mercedes museum. Very different to the Porsche one but excellent.

[hmg66]

Im sure your aware but if your considering doing a few ring laps in your own car on a tourisfahrten session it's not possible to make it risk free should the worst happen…..both from a driving and financial point of view….even when hiring a track car you can only mitigate not eliminate potential exposure ( even with operator insurance)

Track days are slightly different but you certainly need to do your due diligence before committing.

[Disco]

Don’t go to Nuremberg.

It’s quite a long way from the Nurburgring.

well, that was awkward. I genuinely thought that after the UN was done with the Pesky Nazi's - they had a blat around the ring for sh*ts and giggles. !! should have paid more attention in geography.

helpful to know - thank you!

[Disco]

Im sure your aware but if your considering doing a few ring laps in your own car on a tourisfahrten session not possible to make it risk free should the worst happen…..both from a driving and financial point of view….even when hiring a track car you can only mitigate not eliminate potential exposure ( even with operator insurance)

Track days are slightly different but you certainly need to do your due diligence before committing.

fair point - I'm not sure I'm brave enough to be honest. I think my mate wanted to do it - with his GT3 - gotta have deep pockets and balls of steel.

[Disco]

Staying at the V8 Hotel is definitely recommended. The onsite brewery does excellent dunkelweizen which pairs really well with whatever Flammkuchen you desire. If you're there for two nights, then the Böblingen mall is a short walk (past Porsche Böblingen as well) and has a great wee Maultaschen takeaway place. Müller is always worth looking in for their huge toy selection!
Keep your museum tickets - showing them at Mercedes gets you a discount on their museum. It works both ways so think hard about which museum you want to finish on. They're both excellent but in different ways.
Porsche Centrum Stuttgart is no longer, or at least it's no longer across from the museum. That was always worth a look in at - last time I was there they had a 918 and a Carrera GT on the mezzanine level. They also gave me some plate frames when I bought some oil.
As mentioned already - how old's your son? Legoland is maybe an hour along the road and it is ACE.

this is good to know - I'm pretty much set on the V8. My son is 18 ( well, almost ) so I don't think Lego will cut it - although I quite fancy it!! - thanks!

[Disco]

just to add .... if you don't want to go to the Ring, the Furka Pass for example is the same distance away from stuttgart but in the opposite direction .... you could run down to the alps and do some passes and then head back up north

What month are you going ?

planning on going late May, early June. - so the roads will be clear of ice and snow by then ! - sounds like a good idea actually. - will investigate this - thanks!

[Disco]

thanks for the advice chaps - any advice on somewhere nice to stay on the way back to the tunnel.? - just a 1 nighter? - about 4-5 hours drive away?

[misteralz]

18? He'll love Legoland. Our eldest is coming up for 14 and we've had several 'last trip before he gets too old for it' trips, and every time he's looking forward to going back. As am I, to be honest.
Loads of good roads in that part of the world and if you're not all museumed out, back road diversions to Technik Museum Sinsheim and/or Cité de l'automobile are well worth it. Depending on your route back, de Vosges/grand ballon and stay in Gerardemer, or if heading further up and across you could stay the night in Lille, which is an absolutely overlooked gem.

[hot66]

just to add .... if you don't want to go to the Ring, the Furka Pass for example is the same distance away from stuttgart but in the opposite direction .... you could run down to the alps and do some passes and then head back up north

What month are you going ?

planning on going late May, early June. - so the roads will be clear of ice and snow by then ! - sounds like a good idea actually. - will investigate this - thanks!

We have traditionally gone to the alps area for driving tours end of May and usually the passes have just opened. This year by the looks of people’s ski photos there is hardly any snow now anyway . I plucked Furka from random in my reply just to show what else is possible … but that is an area of 3 passes in a triangle you can do in an afternoon… furka, susten, neufenen etc … great driving and arguably more fun than the ring if you’re more of a fast road driver / adventurer than trackday fan

[hot66]