Quieter Weber Carbs
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Quieter Weber Carbs
We must be getting old! I'd like to reduce the level of the induction noise from the Weber 40 IDF carbs on the 356. They are fitted with K&N chrome air filters. Does anyone know of an air filter, or air box that would significantly reduce the induction noise that gets through to the cabin? Without hampering performance (not THAT old....) W
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Re: Quieter Weber Carbs
Bog standard factory parts should fix it?
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The carbs aren't standard factory carbs, it would have had Solexes....
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Re: Quieter Weber Carbs
You can use the standard air filters with air filter adapter plates.
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Winston, a thicker gauge of metal for the top of the filter might help stop some resonance.
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Any chance the chrome tops are loose and adding to the noise or the air filters has lost their stiffness?
I don't have much noise from my webers. Mostly from the exhaust.
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Re: Quieter Weber Carbs
Thanks for the suggestions it's not a mechanical noise it's the classic throaty roar of a Weber breathing. I think the idea of a thicker top plate or even a cast Ali airbox may go somewhere to helping..
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Re: Quieter Weber Carbs
How about some Knecht 356/912 air filters? They can be easily adapted to fit on webers.
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Try sitting further away from them
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Re: Quieter Weber Carbs
Got plenty of acoustic insulation on the firewall?
I believe that having a single air intake which is then split to the 4 throttles would be less intrusive. Changes the frequency of the sound. Not seen any on the market though.
I believe that having a single air intake which is then split to the 4 throttles would be less intrusive. Changes the frequency of the sound. Not seen any on the market though.
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These systems are available although a bit £,£££!
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Think the noise must be generated by turbulent air flow at the carb intakes. Turbulence also increases pressure drop which you don't want. Anything you can do to slow down the air i.e. increase diameter, reduce bends and sharp edges should lead to more laminar flow and less noise. Using radiused velocity stacks within the filter housing should also help. Sorry, not a very straight answer but interesting to know what's going on. Other than that, probably intake air box is the way forward ... https://www.torquecars.com/tuning/smoothed-airbox.php
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Good point. Do you have velocity stacks? I recently bought 4 printed ones off eBay that would help
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If you want it to be quieter just fit the standard air filters it makes a massive difference! You can use weber to solex air filter adapter plates or just modify the filter bases.
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Late 912s had air silencers and better filters than the earlier Knecht.
I’d track some down and see if you can adapt them.
I agree on noise. 356s are very noisy, I’ve been meaning to do the same for mine.
I’d track some down and see if you can adapt them.
I agree on noise. 356s are very noisy, I’ve been meaning to do the same for mine.