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Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:51 pm
by Sam
Whatever happened to Nigel’s orange / white / matching / not matching one?

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:27 am
by RobFrost
Sam wrote:The interior and motor certainly look 74-5 Carrera. I’d want to look very carefully at the VIN stamp before parting with cash. But if it’s just been incorrectly registered as a 72 car at import (which isn’t impossible) and you can get DVLA to correct it that could be a bargain.

With the doctored engine number it feels more likely that it’s also got a dodgy identity though...
I'm highly suspicious of the identity too, particularly because the vendor acts as if he knows nothing whatsoever about the car but the very first thing he sent me upon me getting in touch, was a photo of the engine number. I already asked for a photo of the VIN - he said he's checking the paperwork.

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:34 am
by 210bhp
RobFrost wrote:
Sam wrote:The interior and motor certainly look 74-5 Carrera. I’d want to look very carefully at the VIN stamp before parting with cash. But if it’s just been incorrectly registered as a 72 car at import (which isn’t impossible) and you can get DVLA to correct it that could be a bargain.

With the doctored engine number it feels more likely that it’s also got a dodgy identity though...
I'm highly suspicious of the identity too, particularly because the vendor acts as if he knows nothing whatsoever about the car but the very first thing he sent me upon me getting in touch, was a photo of the engine number. I already asked for a photo of the VIN - he said he's checking the paperwork.

This 911 has been for sale for a very long time. It’s been mentioned on here before. I’d be highly suspicious of its identity.

Regards
Mike

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:35 am
by RobFrost
Sam wrote:Here are the known cars: http://carreramfi.com/registry/
I checked the VIN on there assuming the digits have been mis-read as I hypothesise and it is indeed a white car known to come from Germany. Also, that car was rebuilt in 2012 which might account for the claimed 9,000 miles so the theory bears up for now.

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:50 am
by Guy
Sam wrote:Whatever happened to Nigel’s orange / white / matching / not matching one?
Went to Paul Stephens who removed the '73 engine and fitted another 911/83 built on blank 7R crankcase. Was for sale at Paul Stephens in 2019 but I don't know where it is now.

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:29 pm
by jtparr
210bhp wrote:
jtparr wrote:
210bhp wrote:The 2.7 MFI engine of the 73 RS was continued in the Carrera models for 74, 75 and 76. They were available in coupe and targa format apart, I think, for the 113 or so 76 MY cars which were all coupes and only originally sold in Germany and known as ‘sondermodell’. The impact bumper gurus will tell you that the three year 2.7MFI cars were about the same weight as the 73RS and so performance and experience was on a par with their predecessor. They have gained in value over the years but, as always, condition and history are paramount to get a good example. One of Ddk’s contributors has a beautiful silver example and as usual rhd are rarer than lhd.

Regards
Mike
Aye…and one other contributor did the unspeakable……. 8)
But rather well……

Regards
Mike

Too kind Mike…. :wink:…..at the time it cost me 7.5K….and I put I guess 40 or 50 into it….different times…..

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:11 am
by RobFrost
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/197 ... a-2-7-rs-2

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Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:47 am
by Guy
Did the original car you posted turn out to be a '74 Carrera MFI ?

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:46 am
by RobFrost
Guy wrote:Did the original car you posted turn out to be a '74 Carrera MFI ?
After 5 days no vin photo. I didn't press for it as I'm not in a position to buy the car right now and I didn't want to waste their time.

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Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:37 am
by Guy
They haven't changed the description at all, so who knows what it actually is. Would take a lot of money to restore as well if it is a 1974 Carrera 2.7

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:45 am
by RobFrost
Guy wrote:They haven't changed the description at all, so who knows what it actually is. Would take a lot of money to restore as well if it is a 1974 Carrera 2.7
Do I detect deramping? Planning on snapping it up are we? Also, you already have one.

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:10 pm
by Guy
Not me, one is enough and that still needs finishing!

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:35 pm
by RobFrost
Here's my view on this car: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/274652398869

I think this is most likely a stolen 1974 Carrera RS 2.7 worth around £200,000 (or £0 if you possess it and are not the owner).

The claimed VIN is 911 2500 537 and here's a pic:

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But that VIN is for a 1972 911T, which this is clearly not. Additionally, correct me if I'm wrong but I think 1972 VINs were spaced like: 911 2 500537

Then last digit of the engine number looks to my eye to have been filed off:

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I have advised the vendor who sounds legit.

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:40 pm
by Sam
Yes, that’s a fake VIN stamp. Google will show you it’s nothing like a Porsche one.

Re: How desirable is the 1974 Carrera 2.7 MFI ?

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 5:45 pm
by Nige
Is that a load of paint flaking off the rear arch or reflection
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Z2cAAOSw ... -l1600.jpg