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The link in the old post didn't work, so posting new link here for all Porsche models:

https://www.lokari.de/epages/62716287.s ... ng/Porsche
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Thanks Gary, JB, Deano.

Yes I tried the link and it gave error but just googled and found the company. Now the ones being discussed on the other IB forum that appears just one individual has the source and they need 10 sets minimum to do a production run but as already about 6 people want them and I offered to cover the shortfall and just sell on at cost when others cropped up who wanted them I had hoped it would accelerate a job lot purchase.
The interesting point is the Lokari ones appear to fit standard and wide body, turbos yet from the IB source you have to state which model so obvious designs some how differ.
If someone has the non Lokari ones I would like to know the differences. Apart from the centre support bracket they appear OK to look at but agree painted black would look better and give protection to the ali surface.

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Hi Steve,

Welcome to the forum. I'm on my second set of Lokaris - the first were on for about 14 years before they gave up the ghost. You end up chopping them about a hell of a lot to get them to fit.

I knew the guy who organised the previous plastic arch liner bulk buy on Impact Bumpers - he gave me a set after I gave him some books. I went to try and fit them last year but could not figure out how the hell they were meant to fit - so I bought my second set of Lokaris. I think I gave my free set away but can't remember - I've moved house since.
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Hi, had not picked up the others options were plastic. This is the thread on IB https://www.impactbumpers.com/forum/ind ... rs/page/6/

I will have to read through all 6 pages but it initially came up weeks ago when i was googling wheelarch liners for the Porsche. Living in North Lincolnshire now in the country can't go anywhere without farmers deposits all over the roads......... :bounce:
I had front blow moulded ones fitted on the MGB after having a new heritage body and after many years in the 60's 70's lead loading rust holes it is not something I like seeing nowadays so like the idea of liners.

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It is good to hear that the Lokari's are tried and tested, as I have had these in mind for a while, and reasonably priced I think.

I dont like the look of the aluminium either, but it would be quick and easy to degrease then brush/roller or spray primer and then top coat the aluminium (or just 'direct to metal' paint. There is also the option of using stone chip paint or UPOL Raptor or Gravitex to get a more robust and semi-authentic textured look, and paint-able in the original colour if necessary....
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Steve

I have a set of the plastic liners that were group sold on IB forum a few years ago. They are currently unfitted to the car so happy if you wanted to borrow them as template and arrange your own production or just DIY it. I have trimmed the rear liners to suit my application but only marginally. I never bothered fitting the fronts as crud is less of an issue there, provided you thoroughly wash right up in the arches on a regular basis.

I think they might be better in a thinner gauge plastic or that fabric type of material used on some modern stuff.

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Wow......what a forum this is. After none or few replies on the others it is nice to get all this help.

Nige that is a wonderful offer thank you and my wife has family in Nottingham and Derby Boulton Moor but we really are both high risk so will be going back into hibernation for a while given the current covid. In fact after the first wave it was as we came out I had found the Porsche and was probably bored so went to look at it out of interest and bought it.
I do a few technical articles for various auto magazines so generally buy the different options and do write ups so hopefully if they get used into print I get my costs back.
I have just completed a write up on assembly and test on the various gearshifter upgrades for the 901/915 and last week sold off and fitted one of the left overs to a happy 911 owner who had suffered mis shifts and crunches for 10 years and did not even know options existed. Ended up with one for mine too. I may end up doing the same for the wheel arch liners if different ones are available. On my Lotus+2S albeit fibreglass body the rear 'wheel arch protectors are not a full sweep and just fit at the front of the aperture to protect muck being thrown up to the top corners of the front of the rear wings, they are quite a simple shape in aluminium with just an edge of door rubber pushed on that seals to the inner surface of the outer wing. That said it would block off air flow so am I right to think having flow over the top is the correct solution in the Porsche design. The RR Shadow are complete on the front but in two halfs joined at top 12 o clock wheel position and made from fibreglass so appreciate many styles.
I had not realised as I said the IB ones were plastic and wonder how they have been made ie vac formed or blow moulded. Would appreciate some pictures if you have them off the car. The price quoted is some £70 not clear if that is each, a pair or a set. Whatever the cost as other say far cheaper than doing body repairs years later.
I looked too for some seat covers after asking for advice but got no replies. I was so disappointed with what I got after buying from two different suppliers I ended up just making my own.

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I just received this email from Lokari :lol:

Lokari MUC <info@lokari.eu>
Thu 05/11/2020 08:38
Hello,

at the actual situation we deliver Porsche products only to professional Porsche workshops in the UK, because it is complicating to install these wheel well liners and we have only enough support specialists for B2B (not for private customers). We hope you understand that.

Best regards,

Mrs. Quyen Stadler

LOKARI Customer Service
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911FVD wrote:Wow......what a forum this is. After none or few replies on the others it is nice to get all this help.
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Nice car welcome

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deano wrote:I just received this email from Lokari :lol:

Lokari MUC <info@lokari.eu>
Thu 05/11/2020 08:38
Hello,

at the actual situation we deliver Porsche products only to professional Porsche workshops in the UK, because it is complicating to install these wheel well liners and we have only enough support specialists for B2B (not for private customers). We hope you understand that.

Best regards,

Mrs. Quyen Stadler

LOKARI Customer Service
I suspect what they mean is installation takes a bit of additional work especially from what I have been reading even for the flat plastic ones. Not a problem getting them though through a Porsche shop I have contacts but do they mean an official dealer or someone like an independent Porsche specialist. Certainly would not want to pay official Porsche dealer hourly rates for fitting in addition if a lot of head scratching required. It is strange though as I went on their website to see what total costs would be with shipping and if they doubled up postage costs as sold in sets of front or rear, or just offered a single combined charge for front and rear sets. Added some to my basket and got all through the system to paying and even offered paypal too to checkout which makes paying in euros simpler.
That said I have read through all the IB posts on liners/fitting and the links so decided I am going to make my own. Maybe on the front wings I will just do a rear piece rather than a full sweep but given I used to produce bodyshells from styling clays I doubt it will be too much of a challenge to mock up some cardboard templates. Sheet aluminum is then easy to work with and make any wooden formers for adding swages or beating in any shapes as required.
It will have to be a next year 'job sheet' as just making up a roof skin panel insert at the moment and then fitting an Everflex vinyl top and a new headlining to a Rolls where someone in the 80's had fitted a glass poptop in the car.

Bootsy I see a few same names and members use and respond across the different forums but I like this one as it groups a model range that are similar. I noticed more activity went on with the SC group rather than the '3.2 last eleven' on IB but they all have some good search facilities to look at past issues.

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I have a set of templates that someone (sorry to someone - I can’t remember who) gave me.
If useful, I’m happy to lend them out.
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Another kind offer from forum member........

What are the templates made of Peter. No point in spoiling to ship/post out.

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They’re only brown paper, so I think they’ll survive the postal system.
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I'm curious about the fixing method(s) for the wheel arch side of the liners. Does the liner attach to the wheel arch itself, or further away? I think the Lokari's might supply self-tapping screws plus these S-clips (https://www.lokari.de/epages/62716287.s ... cts/CL-001).

How about the home made versions? Do people drill through the inner lip of the wheel arches?

I managed to find an S-shaped rubber seal that could join the liners to a wheel arch without screws. Ideally, this would be a little wider and much flatter, but could not find anything better in 3 comprehensive seal catalogues...
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