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I am offering these for sale/swap as they are not correct for my car - £1400ono

They have some light damage but nothing terrible to my eyes. Their is some over spray of something on some of the wheels that comes off with some elbow grease.
Are these in their original finish?

As many more pics as people want on request.

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Carefully consider your position.

You need five wheels.
Deep six wheels (What you need) are a good bit more expensive than flat sixes (the ones you have) because they are rarer and you will need the deep sixes ‘with hearts’ to be totally correct.
Flat sixes will work perfectly well on your car and 90% of the world won’t know they are not quite correct.
Are you aiming for this much accuracy on your car?
Do you have a fifth wheel?
If not, what are you going to do about a spare?
If not, it’s going to be much easier to pick up a single flat six than five deep sixes and miles cheaper.
You can then Refurb all five to the same standard at the same time.
Your four wheels are nicely date stamped as a matching set.

Just giving you some food for thought.

Regards
Mike

I’m with Mike on that. Plus flat 6’s are made for tubeless tyres.

JW

210bhp wrote:Carefully consider your position.

You need five wheels.
Deep six wheels (What you need) are a good bit more expensive than flat sixes (the ones you have) because they are rarer and you will need the deep sixes ‘with hearts’ to be totally correct.
Flat sixes will work perfectly well on your car and 90% of the world won’t know they are not quite correct.
Are you aiming for this much accuracy on your car?
Do you have a fifth wheel?
If not, what are you going to do about a spare?
If not, it’s going to be much easier to pick up a single flat six than five deep sixes and miles cheaper.
You can then Refurb all five to the same standard at the same time.
Your four wheels are nicely date stamped as a matching set.

Just giving you some food for thought.

Regards
Mike

Thanks mike, this is kind of why I need to get an idea of their value, at least then I can get an idea of how much extra cash I would need to find on top to get deep 6s. Im not massively bothered about accuracy but if it costs me say an additional few hundred quid then I think it is worth the swap. If we are talking 4 figures then it probably isnt. Id be happy with 4 wheels and to keep a cookie cutter for the spare at the moment. Alternatively if I cant afford deep 6s and Im going to have wheels that are not totally correct I would prefer to have the 15x7 ET23 fuchs with the larger dish to them. Without knowing the value I cant really gauge what I can swap these for.

Neil

Your current wheels could be worth £750 (just my estimate) each as they look original and un-restored, assuming they aren't cracked.

As a date matched, un-restored set of early flat Fuchs wheels with the small hole centre maybe much more.

Last time I bought some (due to cracks on the originals) I remember struggling to find just one, much less four matched.

I bought a set of broadly date matched '73 wheels from the US around 5 years ago in better condition but still needing paint for £2k.

I doubt values have changed much since then.

Just one benchmark from many....

Al

Just to throw in a curve ball, what about putting it on a set of Minilites? They would look superb with the Irish Green, would probably cost less than you would have to spend changing to Deep 6's, and buy you time to either save up for the Deep 6's or wait for the right ones to come along?

Cheers!
JW

jwhillracer wrote:Just to throw in a curve ball, what about putting it on a set of Minilites? They would look superb with the Irish Green, would probably cost less than you would have to spend changing to Deep 6's, and buy you time to either save up for the Deep 6's or wait for the right ones to come along?

Cheers!
JW

Fuchs vs Minilites ....... wash your mouth out sir! Fuchs are one of the best bits of having an old 911 (IMO).

yoda wrote:Fuchs vs Minilites ....... wash your mouth out sir! Fuchs are one of the best bits of having an old 911 (IMO).

I do have to agree really , our 69 S came on horrible 7 x 15 JA Pearce alloys in 1979 that I couldn't wait to change for Fuchs.
How long before people (insurance companies??) start to query the safety aspect of driving around on 50 year old alloys?

JW

I quite like those! Also a fan of cookie cutters and minilites and Fuchs and Campies and...

I'd be interested in these for my 914 if you do decide to sell - PM me if you do.

Thanks

For what it is worth I have sold about 24 genuine Fuchs wheels over he last 12 months or so, so a fair measure on current prices.
Flat and Deep 6's, 7's, 8's.

All straight and no damage or kerb rash. Prices have varied between £300 and £500/wheel excluding value of any tyres and minus any fees. £300 -380 for those needing restoration even if there was zero corrosion or kerb marks. £400-£500 for those restored or good to fit and use.
Certainly not worth restoring wheels these days to sell at a premium. The costs of restoration is no lower than it ever was.
Looking around on line some restored sets have been advertised for 5+ years

If you put them on ebay then set of flat 6s will only sell for about £350/wheel (excluding tyres/caps|) and you may need to wait 12+ months for that bite speaking from person experience.
An ebay auction is a big gamble as some sets have gone for <£1000.
I've had 6's and 7s on ddk for <£400 for long periods and not an enquiry.
Sold 2x 7s to a bloke in Java ! last week for £300/wheel after fees !! They were really clean, no corrosion, or kerb rash but would have needed full redetailing.
Hope this helps

Glad I don't have to fret about this stuff!

If you simply want a smart painted usable set of wheels for the time being, a set of Cookies are dead cheap, are Porsche etc and can be found in 7" width far easier than 6".
Appearance falls in the eye of the beholder.
Minilites IMHO look great and are cheap, but more than a fresh painted set of Cookies.

If this is an important part of the cat to you save until you find what you really want, keep the set you have if you have room.

My 2p only.

I prefer the Cookies to the Minilites (my 2p worth)

These are still available.