Deciding factors ...
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Deciding factors ...
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Firstly let me apologise for starting yet another non-Porsche thread but, in my defence, it might bring a few people 'out of the woodwork' &, in turn, stimulate them to post on their own Porsche experiences/projects.
Also, this thread is likely to be rather 'wordy' with a sparsity of pictures ...
Unlike most of the suggestions offered in Sam's recent thread entitled “Getting a car that isn't a 911”, my criteria these days for an alternative 'fun' car tend to limit the search to '60's/'70's makes/models which have:
- a max weight of 1000 Kg
- an engine of under 2 litres (& preferably no more than 1.5 litres)
- an advanced spec for the era
- a recognised Factory competition history
- & be in standard Factory spec or featuring only 'period'/reversible mods
They would also need to be LHD, ideally built in (relatively) small numbers, be in excellent condition requiring no obvious foreseeable expenditure – &, possibly most important of all, must be a make/model the values of which aren't already prohibitively expensive …
In addition, as I have already owned many 'classic' cars in the past, I would prefer to get a model that I haven't had before ...
The only British car in this category that appeals is a Climax-engined Elite but prices have risen to a level that rules them out for me - & I have no interest in American cars - so what contenders are/were there from european manufacturers ?
Alfa – I've already owned most of those models which interest me that fulfill the criteria
Citroen – made some great cars that have always appealed but nothing that meets the criteria
Nothing from BMW, Fiat or Mercedes particularly interests me
- so that really only left Lancia …
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Firstly let me apologise for starting yet another non-Porsche thread but, in my defence, it might bring a few people 'out of the woodwork' &, in turn, stimulate them to post on their own Porsche experiences/projects.
Also, this thread is likely to be rather 'wordy' with a sparsity of pictures ...
Unlike most of the suggestions offered in Sam's recent thread entitled “Getting a car that isn't a 911”, my criteria these days for an alternative 'fun' car tend to limit the search to '60's/'70's makes/models which have:
- a max weight of 1000 Kg
- an engine of under 2 litres (& preferably no more than 1.5 litres)
- an advanced spec for the era
- a recognised Factory competition history
- & be in standard Factory spec or featuring only 'period'/reversible mods
They would also need to be LHD, ideally built in (relatively) small numbers, be in excellent condition requiring no obvious foreseeable expenditure – &, possibly most important of all, must be a make/model the values of which aren't already prohibitively expensive …
In addition, as I have already owned many 'classic' cars in the past, I would prefer to get a model that I haven't had before ...
The only British car in this category that appeals is a Climax-engined Elite but prices have risen to a level that rules them out for me - & I have no interest in American cars - so what contenders are/were there from european manufacturers ?
Alfa – I've already owned most of those models which interest me that fulfill the criteria
Citroen – made some great cars that have always appealed but nothing that meets the criteria
Nothing from BMW, Fiat or Mercedes particularly interests me
- so that really only left Lancia …
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Andy
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- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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curious , why ideally less than 1.5 lt .. or is that purposely to push you towards a very specific car ?
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This has been for sale for ages.
Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure.
Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530
I havd had 4 Fulvias, including a Fanalone.
This floats my boat:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1219547
But £40k....I sold my Fanalone for less than that.
Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure.
Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530
I havd had 4 Fulvias, including a Fanalone.
This floats my boat:
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1219547
But £40k....I sold my Fanalone for less than that.
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I have always had a want for an Opel GT myself Andy. Engine needs waking up though. Nice shape, relatively cheap with plenty of parts available. https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 7-216-2125
Failing that i quite like the Alfa Alfetta GTV. Prefer the chrome window version, pre 77.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 6-216-7674
My next project, G wagon van weighs about 3 times as much as these two...!
Keep safe.
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Failing that i quite like the Alfa Alfetta GTV. Prefer the chrome window version, pre 77.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 6-216-7674
My next project, G wagon van weighs about 3 times as much as these two...!
Keep safe.
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hot66 wrote:curious , why ideally less than 1.5 lt .. or is that purposely to push you towards a very specific car ?
Mainly because I've always had a preference for relatively light cars with 'smallish' engines James - the 'below 1.5 litres' is an arbitrary figure - not essential but a smallish engine was a definite requirement ...
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It's RHD - & not all as it would seem ...jonno1 wrote:This has been for sale for ages.
Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure
Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530
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I remember - unfortunately it had sold by the time I saw the advert ...jonno1 wrote:I sold my Fanalone for less than that.
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Andy
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- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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stretch wrote:I have always had a want for an Opel GT myself Andy. Engine needs waking up though. Nice shape, relatively cheap with plenty of parts available. https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anz ... 7-216-2125
Dave
Not really my thing I'm afraid Dave ...
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Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
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Lightweight_911 wrote:It's RHD - & not all as it would seem ...jonno1 wrote:This has been for sale for ages.
Could be plucked for under £30k I am sure
Compared to an Alfa 1300GTA.....bargain.
https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1109530
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I remember - unfortunately it had sold by the time I saw the advert ...jonno1 wrote:I sold my Fanalone for less than that.
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The money-no-object answer is surely De Tomaso Vallelunga. Back in the real world, Matra Djet?
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Ive got one from the 80s: The AX.Citroen – made some great cars that have always appealed but nothing that meets the criteria
The lightest closed car per square inch on the road ever, ever. Apparently.
Full of wonderful weight saving details and brilliant thought.
The OG Sport was a c. 750kg, 95bhp 1.3 on twin carbs, limited production run. I expect they probably got raced somehow.
Or just get a BX 4TC. Then you’d be my hero.
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Renault 8?
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A Vallelunga would be perfect Robert - I remember lusting after one that was advertised many years ago for £25k (those were the days !!) - but sadly, as with many others, those days are long goneone-two wrote:The money-no-object answer is surely De Tomaso Vallelunga. Back in the real world, Matra Djet?
Matra D'jet - interesting suggestion ...
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Andy
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I've had a few previously - including an R8 Gordini that I restoredIan Comerford wrote:Renault 8?
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Sorry Sam - nothing from the '80's is in contention ...
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Andy
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Saabs don't do it for me I'm afraid Mike ...
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Saabs don't do it for me I'm afraid Mike ...
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Andy
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”
“Adding power makes you faster on the straights;
- subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”