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Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:45 pm
by neilbardsley
Spent an hour, and failed, on the www looking for an EU fuel rated A tyres for my 356 165/80 r15? Best I could get was C?

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:09 pm
by Lightweight_911
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Personally, Neil, I wouldn't use the fuel economy rating as a basis for buying tyres for a 356.

For a modern daily driver I might take that into consideration if there were a number of brands I was considering - but not for a 'classic' car ...
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Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:34 pm
by 911hillclimber
FWIW:
I buy all tyres except the Boxsters based on an A for wet grip, B's and C's for noise and economy in that order.
No tyre has straight A's.

I feel best grip in the wet is a Good Thing.

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:00 pm
by Lightweight_911
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I think that tyres designed for/aimed at 'classic' cars are exempt from being rated for grip/noise/economy anyway.

For example if you look at 165/80x15 Vredestein Sprint Classic tyres on Camskill's website you see this:

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If the 165/80 x 15 tyres you're looking at are rated it probably means they're modern tyres aimed at modern vehicles ...

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Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:36 pm
by wildtexas
Neil, not sure of your budget or if you are looking for a modern or classic tyre.

Dougal had a deal on his older stock cinturatos not so long ago.

Matt

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:20 pm
by neilbardsley
I have t trac 2 which are rated E. Let's assume the Sprint Classics are about the same but 3 times the cost. According to the rating it's 2.5% fuel efficiency per letter. They not have an extra 5 to 10% of rolling efficiency.

I'm with Graham on this. Modern tyres have much to offer

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Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:39 pm
by mycar
Have a read of Dougal's recommendations....

https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classi ... e/356.html

When I bought my 356 the previous owner told me that fitting Michelin XAS had completely transformed the handling (in a good way) and so I've stuck with them ever since.

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:55 pm
by 911hillclimber
Maybe not a popular point of view, but I would like A listed for wet roads when scooting down a motorway than a tyre that looks classic with unknown wet grip.
But I'm not a 'matching numbers' kind of person!

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 10:09 pm
by Ian Gunney
The Michelin XAS' that I have on the 912 are fantastic - even in the wet.

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:24 am
by Ashley James
I use Vredesteins T Trac on the Healey and will on the Porsche when my Nankangs are worn out. All about £40 and excellent. The Healey had Cinturatos and the Vredesteins we’re better, so I don’t waste money that I don’t need to, except last week I couldn’t get Vredesteins so I had to buy a couple of Continentals for £55 each for the Healey. I buy off Camkskill, who might be a trade supplier.

I will buy OEM tyres for my 718 as I did for my 987, but for a 356.......

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:52 am
by neilbardsley
mycar wrote:Have a read of Dougal's recommendations....

https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classi ... e/356.html

When I bought my 356 the previous owner told me that fitting Michelin XAS had completely transformed the handling (in a good way) and so I've stuck with them ever since.
Sorry I can't listen/read anything he says. Just from the way he had conducted himself on here. I'm sure he is much better in person

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Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:17 am
by mycar
Here's Hayley, the only one to Drive up the Porsche Ice Hill at Silverstone faultlessly and without hesitation.

Hayley wears Michelin XAS

Be more Hayley.

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Kieth Seume

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 1:42 pm
by SeanP
Have had a lot of fun with the sprint classics fitted to my 12

Fun in the dry, good in the wet and not to to pricey

Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:47 pm
by neilbardsley
Im going to buy some new front tyres for my 356 so I emailed customer support and asked them to compare the t trac 2 and Sprint Classic. Response below

"The construction and tread compound of the Sprint Classic is comparable with the T-Trac2 tyre.



The T-Trac 2 has a modern A-symmetrical tread pattern and stable tread block which improves the all performance parameters like handling, traction, braking on both wet and dry road.



For rolling resistance we don’t have the value for the Classic. But in the size size you will not recognize any difference on the car. Difference in tyre is really small. Tyre pressure is much more influencing.



Noise is difficult to compare. Noise on tyre table is exterior noise and is totally not comparable with interior noise. In worse cases it could be that the most quiet tyre on the label is the most noisy tyre in the interior.

The tread design of the T-Trac 2 is designed with noise as part of the requirements. The Sprint Classic is designed in a time that noise was not important, so the T-Trac 2 is absolutely the best on interior noise.



In a nutshell.. If you want to go for performance, the T-Trac 2 is the best! If you want to go for the classic design in combination with acceptable performance, the Sprint Classic is the best choice."



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Re: Tyres 356

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:17 pm
by Dougal Cawley
There are only 3 reasons for not fitting Cinturato or XAS

https://www.longstonetyres.co.uk/classi ... e/356.html

1/ It is a Pre A on 162 Wheels.
2/ your are racing.
3/ you just want crossply.
4/ you want something cheap.

oops! thats 4 reasons.