Matching numbers

[pauldvern]

Hi all,


So this is probably a question asked many times but what do we feel the price difference is percentage wise, between an early 911 with matching numbers and one without?


Cheers



Paul

[Nick Moss]

It depends on the model and history. The rarer and more valuable the car, the more important that it's 100% correct.

[pauldvern]

OK Nick, say a 72E no amazing history.

[Nick Moss]

Just like the Targa that I am restoring for a customer right now. I has a year correct MFI motor. I'll say 20%but open to discussion

[Robind]

I would say at least 20%, the collector will pass it by if not and a lot are now looking for triple matching numbers for real investment
If you are buying to enjoy, drive and then move on then I wouldn't think it matters too much as it gives the enthuastist stock to buy at decent price

[kvinyl]

Triple matching? Engine, gearbox, all panels?

[Cortina]

Triple matching? Engine, gearbox, all panels?

I would have thought Chassis matching Engine and Gearbox ??

[kvinyl]

Would have assumed that the Vin was a given or you'd have nothing to match to..!

[Robind]

Triple matching? Engine, gearbox, all panels?

I would have thought Chassis matching Engine and Gearbox ??

Correct, after attending a few auctions year here and across the pond it seems common practice now to highlight this and increase the prices/interest

[hughes73]

How about if you have matching gearbox and VIN but engine is a couple of hundred numbers out (i.e. year and region correct). Not Premier League but perhaps Division 1?

[yoda]

I think chassis and engine are the key components to match - lack of gearbox matching is prob Div 1. Lack of matching engine Div 2.

[hughes73]

Good point. Then there's original colour, RHD Vs LHD...I'm sure the list goes on. I'm happy with my 'Driver'. Cheaper to buy and I imagine just as fun to drive:)

[davep]

I do not think that an engine of the correct type / serial range / close to matching makes much real difference; either it matches exactly or it does not.
Original paint (as much as possible) or a great repaint in the exact original shade are premiums over an imperfect repaint or not the original colour.
Similarly bodywork. All original panels is preferred, followed by excellent replacement of panels.
Also interior; the more original the greater the premium.
So, matching numbers? Well, it depends on how many matches you can achieve. VIN, engine, transmission, panels, paint, interior & options. The ideal is "as delivered" and zero miles. Start deducting from there. However, the closer to "perfection" the less of a driver example it is. Really, the enjoyment of these cars is in the driving.