door advice
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- DDK slapper chatter
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door advice
hello i have a 69 911 which has corrosion in its drivers door.. its lhd...
lookin to but either a new door or to reskin the old one... ha sanyone done this before... and did the doors change shape after 73... could i use a later door??
ooo and while i am here has anyone got one spare they are just gonna throw out?
any info would be great
bazz
lookin to but either a new door or to reskin the old one... ha sanyone done this before... and did the doors change shape after 73... could i use a later door??
ooo and while i am here has anyone got one spare they are just gonna throw out?
any info would be great
bazz
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The overall shape of the door is the same from 65 to 89. Later doors have impact beams and slightly different fittings for trim attachment. There are also single oblong holes in the front and back of the door where the frames are bolted in instead of 2 round holes. If you are prepared to live with the minor differences they are interchangeable.
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Just out of interest, I have reskinned a '73 model (early) doorskin: Remove door (make note of what shims go where behind hinges, strip out main glass, and mask with cardboard 1/4 light (grinding/welding will etch into glass). Remove handle. Put door flat with frame down. Using linishing disk in mini-grinder, or gently with grinding disk, run around rear and bottom of door skin where it wraps around frame. Drill out spot welds on front edge, and cut cross braces on top of skin - frame, and right at top / rear of skin. The skin should peel off. Clean frame up and prime with high zinc weld thru. primer. Fit new skin over frame, spot or plug weld front edge just in a couple of places, plus tack cross braces at top. Using hammer and dolly gently take skin over frame, do not pinch right up. Re-fit door to car, at this point the whole door can be twisted through it's length to get perfect alignment. When spot on carefully and gently remove again, weld front edge and braces, and continue peening main edge over. Check alignment again, before final peening over. If all perfect put a few (4/5) tiny welds between rear of skin (the beaten over bit) and frame. These help stiffen the door - however you don't want to put any heat into the front of the skin or you will start a distortion. If unsure leave it as most cars aren't tacked here anyway. Then remove black protective paint, etch prime and paint as normal. Put in a couple of sound deadening pads, and cavity wax, re-fit glass and door mech.
The replacement skins are I think all galvanised (hence the etch primer). The one I got was aftermarket, and looked fine, but actually turned aout to be slightly rippled, so I ended up having to fair it in, although the actual panels gaps were fine.
In conclusion: by far the easier option is to get replacement door (take a magnet with you!), but if you've got a reliable welder, grinder and good quality hammer and dolly, it's quite DIY'able.
The replacement skins are I think all galvanised (hence the etch primer). The one I got was aftermarket, and looked fine, but actually turned aout to be slightly rippled, so I ended up having to fair it in, although the actual panels gaps were fine.
In conclusion: by far the easier option is to get replacement door (take a magnet with you!), but if you've got a reliable welder, grinder and good quality hammer and dolly, it's quite DIY'able.
The guy doing my car just bought a pair of '87 doors for £150 each. They have the side impact bars and are galvanised. I believe that a little welding is required to extend the bump that operates the courtesy light switch but I'm willing to be corrected on this. I've seen doors advertised in the back of PP at this price.
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hi there... many thanks for all your replies... very very helpful... am on the search for some doors now.. its amazing how much you guys know... so thanks once again...
hi derek... if your talking about the paint on the oval myself and my father prepped the car and he put the top coat and baked it at the accident repair centre he works at... as for other people i have a couple of friends in telford that can do cheap reprays but haven't seen much of his work lately... but i could find out for you... hth
it would be great for you to pop to the flf4's meeting in your 911 if you get the chance... i am still driving mine over winter but giving it a serious clean afterward... or when the weather gets a bit better... i would love to see your car pal.. i hear its lovely!!
cheers all bazz
hi derek... if your talking about the paint on the oval myself and my father prepped the car and he put the top coat and baked it at the accident repair centre he works at... as for other people i have a couple of friends in telford that can do cheap reprays but haven't seen much of his work lately... but i could find out for you... hth
it would be great for you to pop to the flf4's meeting in your 911 if you get the chance... i am still driving mine over winter but giving it a serious clean afterward... or when the weather gets a bit better... i would love to see your car pal.. i hear its lovely!!
cheers all bazz
Just to confuse matters,
I bought new doors for my 71 911 and wished i had re-skinned the original doors as the door gaps were never as good with the new doors.
But i fitted them myself, and if you have the work done by a body shop, this might not be a problem.
Just an additional thought.
I bought new doors for my 71 911 and wished i had re-skinned the original doors as the door gaps were never as good with the new doors.
But i fitted them myself, and if you have the work done by a body shop, this might not be a problem.
Just an additional thought.
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