"Le Belgique" ST build.
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Re: "Le Belgique" ST build.
Great update Dave, would be interested to hear some more about the tuthill cams, i am currently deliberating whether to go for a std S cam or something a little bit different.
I might also be knocking on your door about your air filter housings!!!!
I might also be knocking on your door about your air filter housings!!!!
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Re: "Le Belgique" ST build.
Mark, i would stick with the S cams in a 2 litre motor. Housings..... Happy to pass on the details of the company that cut the
aluminium plates.
Meanwhile.... it was time to pay my bill and get this engine back to it's rightful owner..! In the van and off we go.!
Whilst i had the opportunity i decided to fit a lightened flywheel to help spin up the engine more freely. Once the gearbox was mated up we were ready to fit the engine. Fortunately i had purchased one of these ebay sissor lifts which made the fitting a doddle. Big thanks to fellow DDK bloke Jim Nic for his help with the engine fitting.
Finally in..... A huge moment and a long time coming...
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aluminium plates.
Meanwhile.... it was time to pay my bill and get this engine back to it's rightful owner..! In the van and off we go.!
Whilst i had the opportunity i decided to fit a lightened flywheel to help spin up the engine more freely. Once the gearbox was mated up we were ready to fit the engine. Fortunately i had purchased one of these ebay sissor lifts which made the fitting a doddle. Big thanks to fellow DDK bloke Jim Nic for his help with the engine fitting.
Finally in..... A huge moment and a long time coming...
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That sure does look good
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Re: "Le Belgique" ST build.
Dave,
That’s an incredible build done right with no corners cut. Very impressive but I do have one suggestion. A new thread name.
Le Benchmark....
That’s an incredible build done right with no corners cut. Very impressive but I do have one suggestion. A new thread name.
Le Benchmark....
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Re: "Le Belgique" ST build.
ST wheels:
The 1970 ST cars used 7R fuchs up front with a spacer. Rear were 9 x 15 magnesium Minilites as Fuchs did not yet produce a 9" wheel. I decided very early on that i wouldn't use original 50 year old magnesium wheels as they are prone to cracking and suffer badly from corrosion. I decided to order a pair of the cast aluminium Minilites but specified that any cast writing was removed and that they are left as a raw finish with no paint, i also had the edges machined to match the originals.
These Minilites on the rear of ST cars didn't last long as Fuchs started to produced a 9" wheel in March 71.
Most teams used the new wheel although the Gaban race team would continue to use the Minilites on the 72 Le mans ST. Pictured below. It is my understanding that this is the same car that ran at Le Mans in 1970 & 71.
Fuchs also produced a new 7" fuch wheel in March 71 that done away with the need for a spacer. I have fitted these early 7" inch fuch wheels up front on my build. All the standard wheel studs were replaced with the longer version to utilise open lug nut's for that race look. Tyres had to be the classic look Michelin TB15. Very pleased with the look.
Interior update next.
Dave
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The 1970 ST cars used 7R fuchs up front with a spacer. Rear were 9 x 15 magnesium Minilites as Fuchs did not yet produce a 9" wheel. I decided very early on that i wouldn't use original 50 year old magnesium wheels as they are prone to cracking and suffer badly from corrosion. I decided to order a pair of the cast aluminium Minilites but specified that any cast writing was removed and that they are left as a raw finish with no paint, i also had the edges machined to match the originals.
These Minilites on the rear of ST cars didn't last long as Fuchs started to produced a 9" wheel in March 71.
Most teams used the new wheel although the Gaban race team would continue to use the Minilites on the 72 Le mans ST. Pictured below. It is my understanding that this is the same car that ran at Le Mans in 1970 & 71.
Fuchs also produced a new 7" fuch wheel in March 71 that done away with the need for a spacer. I have fitted these early 7" inch fuch wheels up front on my build. All the standard wheel studs were replaced with the longer version to utilise open lug nut's for that race look. Tyres had to be the classic look Michelin TB15. Very pleased with the look.
Interior update next.
Dave
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Re: "Le Belgique" ST build.
Looking good Dave although I have to say, I am a sucker for wide Fuchs on the rear as well! Car is looking superb.
Nice looking Pagoda, is that yours?
Nice looking Pagoda, is that yours?
The force is strong in this one ......
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No, that belongs to a good friend of mine. Sold mine nearly 20 years ago. ![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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If Carlsberg did Porsche builds!.......
.....quite probably the sexist 911 ever to grace the pages of DDK!![Cool 8)](./images/smilies/icon_cool.gif)
Congrats Dave![salute :salute:](./images/smilies/icon_salut.gif)
.....quite probably the sexist 911 ever to grace the pages of DDK!
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Congrats Dave
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72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
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Beautiful Dave.
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Well done mate
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Where was I … Interior
Once the original front and rear screens were installed I then set about installing the very minimal carpet. Now these lightweight competition cars were fitted out with minimal unbound needle felt carpet. As far as I was aware this carpet was no longer available anywhere. During my search I managed to borrow a new old stock piece from a fellow DDK member with the intention of trying to get this distinctive patterned felt re-manufactured. A few enquires and a few samples later and the carpet was manufactured to original spec. A pain to install as there is no pattern or edging so fitting is very time consuming. Unfortunately I didn't take many pictures during the install. Pictured is a factory 69 lightweight GTS car with this distinct patterned felt. One of my favourite cars.
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Carpet installed :
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Also pictured in this GTS lightweight is the factory choice of hand held fire extinguishers that were mostly placed in the centre of the rear seat area in the LWB competition cars. SWB cars including the 911R placed these upfront in the foot well or forward of the gear stick. Well, I need to find one of these now….!
After an exhaustive search over a couple of years a German friend managed to source me one of these Auto Total powder extinguishers which was correctly 69 dated for my ST build..... Result. I wouldn't attempt to use a 50 year old extinguisher, it's purely for show. Also pictured is a modern unit discreetly placed out of site under my glove-box bulkhead.
Apologies for crap phone pictures.
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Once the original front and rear screens were installed I then set about installing the very minimal carpet. Now these lightweight competition cars were fitted out with minimal unbound needle felt carpet. As far as I was aware this carpet was no longer available anywhere. During my search I managed to borrow a new old stock piece from a fellow DDK member with the intention of trying to get this distinctive patterned felt re-manufactured. A few enquires and a few samples later and the carpet was manufactured to original spec. A pain to install as there is no pattern or edging so fitting is very time consuming. Unfortunately I didn't take many pictures during the install. Pictured is a factory 69 lightweight GTS car with this distinct patterned felt. One of my favourite cars.
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Carpet installed :
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Also pictured in this GTS lightweight is the factory choice of hand held fire extinguishers that were mostly placed in the centre of the rear seat area in the LWB competition cars. SWB cars including the 911R placed these upfront in the foot well or forward of the gear stick. Well, I need to find one of these now….!
After an exhaustive search over a couple of years a German friend managed to source me one of these Auto Total powder extinguishers which was correctly 69 dated for my ST build..... Result. I wouldn't attempt to use a 50 year old extinguisher, it's purely for show. Also pictured is a modern unit discreetly placed out of site under my glove-box bulkhead.
Apologies for crap phone pictures.
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Once the carpet was finished I set about building up the doors. As mentioned previously in the build, 4mm Plexiglas was used for all side glass in my Build as per the Gaban ST. I retained the original front and rear glass screens as these were in good shape.
The eagle eyed amongst you might have noticed the choice of window winder on the lightweight door panels. These chrome handles were fitted to the 1970 Lightweight German delivered S which is widely regarded to be the prototype for the 70 ST car. These winders were from the VW parts bin and fitted to early 914's and various other air cooled vehicles.
Worn second hand Horse bridal reigns provided the correct width leather door pulls with the correct creased edging. A good find.
Pictured is the door panel in the brochure and my finished door.
1970 porsche ST proto by stretch1985, on Flickr
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The eagle eyed amongst you might have noticed the choice of window winder on the lightweight door panels. These chrome handles were fitted to the 1970 Lightweight German delivered S which is widely regarded to be the prototype for the 70 ST car. These winders were from the VW parts bin and fitted to early 914's and various other air cooled vehicles.
Worn second hand Horse bridal reigns provided the correct width leather door pulls with the correct creased edging. A good find.
Pictured is the door panel in the brochure and my finished door.
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....about bloody time!
Looking great Dave. Itching to see this car in the flesh......no doubt one of the greatest builds to ever grace these pages
I'm using these now as for a modern extinguisher, small, light, very easy to hide, a long shelf life and would appear to be very effective..... https://firesafetystick.com
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Looking great Dave. Itching to see this car in the flesh......no doubt one of the greatest builds to ever grace these pages
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I'm using these now as for a modern extinguisher, small, light, very easy to hide, a long shelf life and would appear to be very effective..... https://firesafetystick.com
Darren
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
72T 2.5... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=56183
73 2.4E ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=44242
77 Carrera 3.0...to 74 3.0RS ... http://ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=63389
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stretch wrote: Worn second hand Horse bridal reigns provided the correct width leather door pulls with the correct creased edging. A good find.
I like your approach Dave !
As Darren said - updates on this thread are well overdue ...
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Seats.... another long time ago purchase were my favourite choice of period race seats: the Scheel 300. Full GRP and very light. No headrests in a lightweight.
Seats were mounted on Scheel GT lightweight sliders. Yes, there snug.
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