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Your 'barn'/workshop is beginning to look more like a Masterchef kitchen !!

It's going to be a fabulous place to work in ... 8)

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So for fitting the worktops I wanted to do a proper job so I bought one of these jigs
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In case you don't know the hockey-stick shape allows you to do nice 90 degree joints where the join is offset from the corner itself. You can also use the other cut-outs to let you attach brackets to the underside which pull two halves together on a butt joint.

It's good quality kit but it's also something that needs a lot of thought if you aren't used to using it - you can use either side of the jig, the hockey stick 'hook' can be at 5 different distances from the end of the board, and there are numerous holes that pegs go through for different purposes

Here's me cutting out the female part of the hockey-stick - this is on one of the longer pieces
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And you're left with this - the holes are cut in the piece that butts up to it and you can put special bolts into the 'dog-bone' holes that result - and pull the two halves together
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OK so then I had to do the corresponding hockey cuts and dog bone cuts in the end of the smaller piece.
Did the hockey cut - no problem
Did the dog bone - again no problem. As the wood is hard you had to do the cut in about 5 or 6 smaller passes so it's not a speedy job.

It was just as I finished the last of these 3 dog bones I realised I'd f*cked up.

I'd forgotten to turn the board over first so I'd put the dog bone holes in the top side of the worktop.
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So I cut off about 8 inches and did it again - properly this time


F*ckup number 2
I went to bed that night quite pleased with myself. I'd cut the end piece properly this time and all perfectly square.
Then as I'm lying in bed I started to think that the walls of the barn aren't perfectly square.

The next morning I went back and checked
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Oh Bugger.

I scribed a new line that would work with the walls, cut off another 8 inches and did all the cuts again.

Luckily the end piece was a bit on the long side so I'd got plenty of room to spare.
This is what it should have looked like (and now does)
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And this is the finished article (prior to oiling it). You can also see the car lift control panel which now features slots for the rubber blocks
I did actually do one final f*ckup while rounding the corner and the router moved in a bit. I've filled the resulting indentation
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And a view from the bottom end
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It feels great to have all this worktop space
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Lovely, very satisfying!
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Very impressive Mark !! :hello1:

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that last pic gives a real sense of how big it all is .. looking great 8)

How long until every work surface is covered in car bits & other tat leaving a small 1m section of usable work top :lol:
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Yep really looking forward to that stage but still a while to go yet - I want to make some nice drawers and cupboards (with slide-out shelves)

And I still need to do the electrics in the other (dirty) room. - the tannery. I’m running all my machinery in there from one double socket and two extension cables

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Those router jigs are such fun!!! End result looks fab.

I struggle to keep 1m2 of worktop clear, good luck with that much space! :)
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Clear worktop - is that the brief moment between moving one load of cr4p off so that you can put a new pile of things (that need attention) on ?
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I’m thinking so - in the other room I’ve got 2 workbenches. Probably 4m by 1m.

Currently there is about 20 square centimetres of usable space (if that)

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So yes, I’ve just created opportunity for much more mess.
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OK so it’s probably time for another update. When I last left you I’d got worktops but nothing underneath.

From previous experience I knew I wanted lots of drawers and very few cupboards. I usually fill cupboards up with crap that you can’t get at. I do the same with drawers but you can get at it.

I planned it all out and decided I would have 3 cabinets with 6 drawers each (2 shallow and 4 deep), one with 4 deep drawers for all my cordless tools, and one cupboard - but that would have 3 shelves, each of which was actually a drawer.

So 25 drawers in all then.

I wanted each drawer to have bottom mountings not side mountings and I wanted them all to be soft close. Blum were what I decided on for the fixtures. I think the ones I actually bought were Blum knock-offs which look identical and work the same but are cheaper. They still seem very well made.

So first job was carcasses.

I found an amazing program online where you can feed it the dimensions of everything you want to cut and it will give you a cutting list of the best way of getting those pieces out of 8x4 sheets of plywood. It was brilliant and no doubt saved me money in wasted material.

So after a lot of cutting I ended up with this Image
And these were the drawer fronts - I left them as one piece for the whole of the front that I could cut down when the drawers were made and hopefully preserve the grain.

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After a bit of work I built the first carcass - held together using festoon dominos (fantastic bit of kit)

Here it is slotted into place - just trying it out for size

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This one was an incredibly tight fit. Some of the others were even tighter. I then thought it through and realised I didn’t need them to be so tight so took a couple of mill off each of the sides (or tops - can’t remember now) and this meant they slotted in a lot better.

I chamfered the corners to allow a gap for the welds in the corners of the frame. I test fitted each one and then took them out and back to the woodworking stable - as I was making the drawers I needed to be fitting them there and then instead of carting them over to the barn each time


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Once I’d made all 5 carcasses I set about cutting all the drawer components

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This was a long process. 25 drawers - each with 4 sides and a bottom = 125 pieces to cut.

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Once they were all cut I then had to cut a groove near the bottom of each piece so the bottom of the drawer could slow in.

Ideally you’d have a spindle moulder or router table for this. I did’nt have either but I did have a router, and a table, so I made a temporary router table

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It wasn’t brilliant but it did the job. The job, in this case was cutting a groove in 100 pieces of 18mm plywood.

Here you can see the grooves cut in some of the pieces
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And here are all the carcasses with their drawer components set out inside them

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Then I started the loooooooooong process of making up all the drawers

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For each one I had to cut the domino joints on the correct face and to the correct depth.

Cock ups I found along the way:-
- I’d made every drawer 18mm too short! (I’d misread the less than clear instructions that came with the drawer slides) Not a massive deal but I had to put blocks on the back of every drawer to make up for the gap
- As I was cutting the grooves I must had had the fence move on me as some of them were further away from the bottom
- when glueing up the first lot of drawers I didn’t spend enough time making sure they were square. The duly bit me on the arse when fitting the drawers and required a lot of fiddling and planing. I learned from that and made sure all the rest were square.

On reflection I should have made up one set of drawers totally before even cutting the rest - that would have saved a few problems.

But hey ho, it went pretty well, all thing considered


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