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I'm not sure I fancy riding that. The mismatch in the rear triangle surely puts stress on the frame?

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It's survived this long - empiricism trumps theory.

jb wrote: ↑Sun Oct 30, 2022 4:36 pm


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911hillclimber wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:17 pm Whatever it is would love to know more, fab bike!

Its a c1888-90 Singer 'Royal', getting quite close to the earliest 'Safety cycle'. It is utterly wonderful to ride if you like old things, a bit rattly on coarse surface-dressed British tarmac. Fixie, with very gentle brake. Comfortable, despite and because it is pretty heavy. The rear legs, stems and possibly the forks are solid steel bar. It's new to me, and im very pleased with it, I did 13 miles in an hour, and 21 in 1 1/2 hours. Hopefully it'll carry me the 60 miles of the London-Brighton Veteran car Run on Sunday.....

neilbardsley wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:18 pm I'm not sure I fancy riding that. The mismatch in the rear triangle surely puts stress on the frame?

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It perfectly demonstrates how (not really very) far bicycles have come in their lifetime. I think it probably represents the wheel at its earliest as a form of accessible individual personal transport. It must have been astonishing to have one of these in 1890. True travel/transport independence. W

Winston Teague wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 5:32 pm

neilbardsley wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 1:18 pm I'm not sure I fancy riding that. The mismatch in the rear triangle surely puts stress on the frame?

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It perfectly demonstrates how (not really very) far bicycles have come in their lifetime. I think it probably represents the wheel at its earliest as a form of accessible individual personal transport. It must have been astonishing to have one of these in 1890. True travel/transport independence. W

Independence at a price most probably could not afford as the cost was around 6 months salary.

Thanks, looks great and interesting geometry.

911hillclimber wrote:Thanks, looks great and interesting geometry.

It's surprisingly similar to my Schwinn to ride. Very comfortable, though not ideal for hills or speed. W

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Interesting.
Heard the guy on American Pickers program say the same, a cruiser of a bike.
The old one looks a short wheelbase to me, hence my comment.
Can get tyres for the very old machines?

911hillclimber wrote:

See here in action.....

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Try harder...
Gulp!

911hillclimber wrote:Try harder...
Gulp!

Like Father, like Son....

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