Renault F1 - cheating

hot66 · Post by **hot66** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:22 pm

seems pretty conclusive

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 258987.stm

Flavio Briatore has left his position as boss of the Renault team after they decided not to contest charges of fixing the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.

left4dead · Post by **left4dead** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:45 pm

Pat Symonds, too - wasn't he implicated with some other F1 shennanigans a season or so ago?

I wonder where this leaves Flavio's lawsuit with Piquets senior & junior

JAN · Post by **JAN** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:47 pm

Oh dear, and Pat Symonds has left too.

Bob_Salmon · Post by **Bob_Salmon** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:18 pm

Last time Renault were found guilty of cheating - similar case to Maclaren - they escaped without punishment because they admitted their guilt. Could they really be so lucky a second time?

Bob

DIRKBROWNFINGER · Post by **DIRKBROWNFINGER** » Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:25 pm

What if Piquet's crash had injured or killed a marshall or spectator - all three of them would be up for manslaughter. Mucky business.

Dirk

Glenn75S · Post by **Glenn75S** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:56 am

I think that Piquet should shoulder a large part of the blame. I mean these guys do need to have some scrupples.

I wonder how Alonso feels about the win now

left4dead · Post by **left4dead** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:35 am

Glenn75S wrote:I think that Piquet should shoulder a large part of the blame. I mean these guys do need to have some scrupples.

I wonder how Alonso feels about the win now

I wonder how Massa feels - he should have won that race and consequently the championship

DIRKBROWNFINGER · Post by **DIRKBROWNFINGER** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:29 pm

Well Massa was in the lead at the time of the crash, and came out behind the safety car in 13th, so I am sure he feels as sick as a parrot! There is talk of Ferrari now suing for loss of the drivers title etc. It is entirely fair to strip Alonso of the points for the win, and to give the win to whoever came in second. But they cant assume that Massa would have won without the crash and give him the ten points and the championship over Hamilton.

They cant throw Renault out, so lets see how big the fine is! I bet Max is quite enjoying his final months of power.

Did you read the story about Max this week? He had dinner with all of the leading motorsport journos as a farewell, and they had a collection (whipround) and bought him a riding crop! Max saw the funny side apparently.

Dirk

silver911 · Post by **silver911** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:54 pm

If I recall Massa was in such a hurry to leave the pits the second time around he left before the fueling rig was off...

That may well have happened anyway..so changing the result is not really on.. Massa made his own mistake.. regardless...