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Hi guys spoke to Tim (impmad) last night and he was telling me about wheel arch inserts that stop all the c*** landing in the areas you dont want it to.

Does anybody have pics / comments on these and can you tell me where to buy them.

Cheers Jay

http://www.lokari.de/en/innenkotfluegel.php

think that is what most people are using and what Tim was on about. I don't think there are any other options out there unless you fab some yourself.

Look at this thread Jay, Gary has them fitted, shown in one of the pictures
http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 52&start=0
Tim

very interesting, we use sheet metal engineers so I could get them fabbed up
but how are they held in?

OIC well that looks easy enough I think I will make my own (famous last words!) I will let you know how I get on.

How are the HE's Tim?

Hi Jay,

I'd pay the money rather than try to get them made, whilst they are a bit of a fiddle the basic shapes are correct and you'd spend ages trying to make up templates that are anything like as close It's got to be worth £160 of your time

They are screwed to the body in a couple of places, I packed the screw holes with grease to make sure I didn't start my own little rust trap whilst trying to prevent others

They just quoted me €280.00 or about £200.00 mmm i guess its still only £50 a corner.

Mind you £200 has got to be worth 1 weekends trying and once I get the patterns right it shouldnt take too long to knock up. Anybody know a good place to look for the rubber trims?

Jay

Actually even better does anybody have any not fitted yet?

Hi Jay: certainly if your metal people have a swager for putting beads through sheet, the actual fabrication would be a doddle. The tricky part would the patterns.

This time on mine, I thought I'd actually wheel some shape into my own ones, just to make then look a bit more 'factory'. Still I'm a long way off that stage, as the car is still untouched in a local barn .

The Lokari fixings are really nasty anyway, so you won't lose out by not having them.

jaymatwhit wrote:How are the HE's Tim?

Not really looked, but a lot better than my current ones
Cheers Tim

I seem to remember someone on here making their own from 3mm polypropylene plastic, which could be the way forward if you can source a sheet of it. Modern cars generally use plastic arch liners after all.

I looked into getting some rubber seals for the liner to inner-wing interface... Woolies trim company seemed to be a potential source.

I bought a set from Lokari and was not that impressed with the look, which is why Barry is so observant as he saw them too

I am sure they will help in keeping crud out of the arches, and have no doubt that they offer good value, but to me they just looked to agricultural,, I’m sure it would take quite a while to make them yourself, but at least you could just neaten everything up if you did

The aluminium is well formed with neat crease lines down the centres, but the cut outs to go around pipes and corners are a little crude
The rubber edging is cut and mitred around corners, not bent and is only held onto the aluminium with large staples (not even sure if they are stainless staples)

Hope the picture helps





I sold my set on

regards

Jp

lets face it, anything that stops the crud being flung to the far reaches of a 911 under-arch area has to be good, even if it isn't 100% effective !

impmad2000 wrote:lets face it, anything that stops the crud being flung to the far reaches of a 911 under-arch area has to be good, even if it isn't 100% effective !

My thoughts exactly. My car will be driven in all weathers on some crap roads following rallys etc, that is why I bought Jonathan's ones.

We have some Scandinavian IBers who use Lokaris and swear by them (not at them), plus they weigh almost nowt. I agree the fittings leave a little bit to be desired, so I will see if we can improve on that before we drill any holes.

jaymatwhit wrote:Anybody know a good place to look for the rubber trims?

Jay

If you're a pikie, like me, any older car at breakers would have that trim around the door. It's not door seal - more like a harder thing, they used to put over ther sharp metal creases at the edge of doors to protect people who are going in or out.

I've looked into making these. Decided I'd need some sort of thermo plastic and probably more patience than I will ever have.