DDK - Die Deutschen Klassiker

I've learned the hard way that there is only one way to do the job and that's properly. Otherwise you're throwing money away and you'll struggle to sell the car.

If you do a good job and people know you do, you'll get a good price. It's worth remembering that around the world there is what is called English Concours.

My advice is take your time and get the jobs done as you can afford them and end up with a car you can be proud of. It's worth it now Porsche's are so valuable.

Unfortunately a high price is not always the guarantor one might hope...!

I've got to get the sides of my SC painted having had the sills, posts and kidney bowls done...I'm a bit nervous!

911hillclimber wrote:...saved £9500. That will be the kitchen and bathroom paid for....

Sounds like your kitchen and bathroom will be to the same standard as your rattle can paintwork!

I paid £4400 about 17/18 years ago for the paint on my car. I struggled with this figure at the time but ended up going with it on the advice of my metal man. I know that my car has been stored for years but the paint still looks good today - would this be the same with a cheap job?

Of course this is going to be wide and varied, but my car was done by me on the cheap as I had always been a DIY car type, don't much like using specialists.

My metal working is not Barry level, but OK enough for me, would make many today fall about laughing, but they had Barry do the shell so easy to mock the keen armature, me.

I painted mine in '89 in a garage, no temperature control, no filtered air just me and the old gun. No etch primers, polyester something, just metal, primer and 3 top coats of ever increasing solvents to get the gloss. No mopping, not even T cut! Recently, paint types seeing the car are impressed, so it wasn't too bad 28 years ago.
Thus I can achieve something ok.

The car is not worth a lot in the Early 911 spectrum as I've described it before, and £10k would be 30% of what it is worth, not that it is for sale.
I doubt my £30k as it is car will be £40k when painted.
My 30k car with some local repairs will still be 30k when done, not 20k so I loose nothing. Might even get 32k!

If my custom rattle cans colour match then I can get some matched cellulose made and spray paint DIY the offending panels and get the same 'out-of-the-gun finish' as the rest of the car.

Is there any commentator on this thread who has self painted a car? I feel a sub-standard DDK as I don't open the cheque book as wide as many!

mean_in_green wrote:Unfortunately a high price is not always the guarantor one might hope...!

Absolutely not, so unless you know plenty and can judge the people you're dealing with, it's best to go to the companies with the best reputations. The ones that have plenty of personal recommendations.

My son is rectifying faults on several R-R & B that have been restored by a very high profile and much promoted company. The work is basically sound, but with errors that inevitably occurs if the people doing it aren't familiar with particular makes. Only trouble is that they charged £780,000 for a £200,000 job.

I only mention this because they're currently being sued by a group of unhappy customers, so it isn't just my opinion.

Mike wrote:

911hillclimber wrote:...saved £9500. That will be the kitchen and bathroom paid for....

Sounds like your kitchen and bathroom will be to the same standard as your rattle can paintwork!

LOL.

911hillclimber wrote:
Is there any commentator on this thread who has self painted a car? I feel a sub-standard DDK as I don't open the cheque book as wide as many!

There's at least one......

grannysmith wrote:

911hillclimber wrote:A 964 owner today told me he paid £3500 to repaint his car, metallic and a Targa 5 years ago. It looked great. (glass-out etc, all stripped/re-assembled by the shop)

Can £3.5K have escalated to £10K in 5 years?

Perhaps so. In 5 years there might have been a lot of legislation changes regard hazardous waste disposal and venting of noxious fumes to the atmosphere. I don't know if governing bodies have to be joined or licenses need to be obtained but if so I would bet they are not cheap. Put that with increases to rent, materials, filtration system upgrades and labour rates and the rise in a professional paint job might be justified.
Sadly the time of the home (cheap) paint job might be gone as neighbours health and environment has to be protected, did you hear that Jason?

Mike wrote:

911hillclimber wrote:...saved £9500. That will be the kitchen and bathroom paid for....

Sounds like your kitchen and bathroom will be to the same standard as your rattle can paintwork!

Lol.

Did my bathroom recently as a DIY project (bar the tiler). Stopped counting the receipts at £3k. Used stuff from Villeroy & Boch, Grohe and Kaldwei with porcelain tiles. I'd do a build thread.... but I'm not that stupid

I chose to ignore the comment, felt it a bit insulting.
Some work on different budgets to others.

Hope the weather will hold for awhile so I can do a shitty blow over job on the poor thing.

I stripped my car to bare metal repaired all of the rot, delivered the car to a local professional car restorer who prepped and painted it. I the got the car back in pieces and put it back together.

Cost for paint £8k

Cost of putting it bac together? Priceless

964RS wrote:

911hillclimber wrote:
Is there any commentator on this thread who has self painted a car? I feel a sub-standard DDK as I don't open the cheque book as wide as many!

There's at least one......

grannysmith wrote:

911hillclimber wrote:A 964 owner today told me he paid £3500 to repaint his car, metallic and a Targa 5 years ago. It looked great. (glass-out etc, all stripped/re-assembled by the shop)

Can £3.5K have escalated to £10K in 5 years?

Perhaps so. In 5 years there might have been a lot of legislation changes regard hazardous waste disposal and venting of noxious fumes to the atmosphere. I don't know if governing bodies have to be joined or licenses need to be obtained but if so I would bet they are not cheap. Put that with increases to rent, materials, filtration system upgrades and labour rates and the rise in a professional paint job might be justified.
Sadly the time of the home (cheap) paint job might be gone as neighbours health and environment has to be protected, did you hear that Jason?

Don't forget Chris jury and his 'roller' paint job

Sladey and his home painted backdate

Nige has painted his car historically

I'm sure there are many others I've forgotten

I rattle can painted the front bumper of my old 993

911hillclimber wrote:
Is there any commentator on this thread who has self painted a car? I feel a sub-standard DDK as I don't open the cheque book as wide as many!

Ddk doesn't favour one way or another and no one way is superior or better either... Some of my favourite cars on Ddk are home restored and painted. Big Micks targa paint job is stunning .

There is p155 taking at both ends of the spectrum

One thing you've not made clear though , did you paint your car yourself ?

hot66 wrote:
There is p155 taking at both ends of the spectrum

One thing you've not made clear though , did you paint your car yourself ?

I painted a car once. Then spent three weeks in hospital whilst my lungs recovered, so decided to stick to greasy bits!