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Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:39 pm
by DustyM
Darren65 wrote: The brackets are actually bolted not welded, I guess the car had a similar look to that of my E back in the 80's…

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Cheers,
You have to tell us more about that, what was the story with the Q plate, did you have it long?

Cheers
Jon

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:50 pm
by Lightweight_911
Yes - get rid of the o/s battery box (& battery) - unnecessary weight & better airflow for a wing-mounted cooler if you're planning on using a 28-row brass or radiator-type cooler.

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:27 pm
by Darren65
DustyM wrote:
Darren65 wrote: The brackets are actually bolted not welded, I guess the car had a similar look to that of my E back in the 80's…
You have to tell us more about that, what was the story with the Q plate, did you have it long?
This is my current 2.4E Jon, I didn't own it then.

The picture came from the UK's first owner who registered it on the Q plate in the 80's - the story is at the bottom of this page: http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 6&start=30

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:29 pm
by DustyM
Darren65 wrote:
DustyM wrote:
Darren65 wrote: The brackets are actually bolted not welded, I guess the car had a similar look to that of my E back in the 80's…
You have to tell us more about that, what was the story with the Q plate, did you have it long?
This is my current 2.4E Jon, I didn't own it then.

The picture came from the UK's first owner who registered it on the Q plate in the 80's - the story is at the bottom of this page: http://www.ddk-online.com/phpBB2/viewto ... 6&start=30
Ah OK - must pay attention...

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:59 pm
by Darren65
911hillclimber wrote: I have a 3.2 in my 73T with twin batteries. Never gets hot in the UK weather. It has a trombone cooler only.
I think overheating could be an issue when standing still
Cheers Graham, I'm sure it would work as I don't plan to do much standing still in this one! :wink:
Lightweight_911 wrote:Yes - get rid of the o/s battery box (& battery) - unnecessary weight & better airflow for a wing-mounted cooler if you're planning on using a 28-row brass or radiator-type cooler.
Do like the idea of this; I guess the radiator type coolers are much more efficient and have seen quite a cool air scoop through the horn grill mod that I might try to replicate.

Cheers,

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:07 pm
by hot66
personally I'd keep the battery box .... I like keeping the original metal ... especially if the design / philosophy of this car is to follow a 'period modification' where things like removing the battery box would have been less likely

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:24 pm
by Darren65
hot66 wrote:personally I'd keep the battery box .... I like keeping the original metal ... especially if the design / philosophy of this car is to follow a 'period modification' where things like removing the battery box would have been less likely
Hi James,

I have been pondering this - on one hand I would like to keep the car as original as possible so it could easily be taken back to stock if desired, on the other hand my guiding principles with this build is that it was a 'street racer' modified in the late 70's when these concerns wouldn't have been an issue or cared about!

In that case, provided it was possible in 1978, anything goes! :wink: - edit: provided it looks cool!

The current battery box is toast anyway, the irony is that I ended up with two new OS Porsche battery boxes from my last build so have a spare one already! :?

Cheers,

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:47 pm
by myatt1972
If anything goes, could you squeeze one of these in ?
http://www.ptoc.cc/?Oil_Coolers
We had them cooling hydraulic oil on some narrow boats :shock: ? :shock:

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:59 pm
by Darren65
myatt1972 wrote:If anything goes, could you squeeze one of these in ?
http://www.ptoc.cc/?Oil_Coolers
We had them cooling hydraulic oil on some narrow boats :shock: ? :shock:
Thanks keith…..see edit! :wink:

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:19 pm
by myatt1972
Darren65 wrote:
myatt1972 wrote:If anything goes, could you squeeze one of these in ?
http://www.ptoc.cc/?Oil_Coolers
We had them cooling hydraulic oil on some narrow boats :shock: ? :shock:
Thanks keith…..see edit! :wink:
:lol:

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:24 pm
by stretch
Hi Darren,

I had a few of these built for the front wing cooler whilst i was trying to source a decent original. Based on the 911R- 2.2S type cooler. The later one's are much cheaper than these pre-72 types though.

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Dave

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:18 pm
by 911hillclimber
Didn't the factory have to fit a fan when they went to a radiator cooler?
As you say, that box will fall out of the inner wing with a gentle tap so best have it out and panel it off.

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:46 pm
by stretch
The 2.2s and factory race 2.3 ST had engine cooler plus 1 front wing cooler.

Race 2.5 ST went for twin front wing coolers. No fans.

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:08 am
by squirdan
i have a brass oil rad (not the trombone type) the 28 row type that you could have Darren

a good mod but much more "period" than a later SC type

came to me as part of a package of parts but is surplus to requirements

£150 to you (or anyone else if you dont want it!)

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Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:55 am
by johnM
1973 RS had a trombone oil cooler, so that would be just about period.


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