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911hillclimber wrote: Standard 1st so traffic jams are easy
Slightly taller 2nd if engine not too cammy but 8K in 2nd will be quite a buzzz
Stock third so engine falls straight onto the max torque from a screaming 2nd
Stock 4th for the same reason but you are now going quite fast for UK roads..
Tall 5th for the cruise home after the blast.
Thanks Graham, sounds pretty right….I appreciate the input.

Along with a Wevo bearing retainer and side cover with a larger differential bearing, Mike also mentioned about possibly fitting a Wevo gateshift kit. Not sure on this (love the standard 915 Mike built for me last time), anybody have any experience with this product?….

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http://www.wevo.com/Products/Transmissi ... eshift.htm

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Sorry to come back...
But I do!

Very recently drove a rally prepped 911 with a cammy 3.0L with a 915 box, straight cut first/second and a WEVO 'internal' WEVO shifter and helicopter joints throughout.

I mean solid metal to metal throughout, no plastic sleeves at all.

It was MAGIC!

Really measures up to the 'rifle shoot bolt' phrase.

You will need about 2K to do it but what a box/transmission it has.

Very hard metal to metal feel and sound (gears were deafening) but VERY HotRod.

If I had the $$$$ I would do my 911.

You have to focus on the change if you want it to move fast, esp 2/3rd plane but so posative and went with a the fizzzing engine on PMO's a treat.

It is the orange car here, belongs to British hill climb Champion, Roger Moran.
Maybe some footage on You Tube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqxZ0b0XNBs

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I don't have any experience of the Wevo gateshift but I'm afraid I have totally the opposite view - I don't 'get' the addition of such products unless you've got an 'out & out' competition car - surely the appeal of an old 911 (or any other 'classic') is to experience (more or less) how the car drove 'back in the day' (warts & all) ?

I've never found the early 911 gearchange (for road use) - whether 901 or 915 style - a problem ... I don't expect to be able to change gears like a modern car.
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andy, have you ever used a seine shift gate ?
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This was on a car I bought from the States (one of Sherwood Lee's Seine Systems 915 shifters):


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- I used it for a while but swapped it back to a std shifter & didn't notice any significant difference (but it was probably 10 years ago so my memory might have faded).
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its the self centering on 3rd / 4th thats meant to be the benefit. You still got that shifter sat on a shelf somewhere ?
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I was really worried about the 915 issues with selection and gates when I first finished my car. Have to say I totally agree with Andy that they are non issues as long as the linkage parts are in good condition and fitted correctly . The shift feel is part of the experience it doesn't need money thrown at it, just an understanding hand and good heel and toe technique ( which is something I have had to re-learn).

My box has standard ratios for a 75' 911S, I've not found it lacking in daily use, 3rd gear in particular is perfect for B road bashing and 5th is nice and long for motorways.
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hot66 wrote:You still got that shifter sat on a shelf somewhere ?
Long gone I'm afraid James ...
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Because the WEVO stuff is very expensive, I took the lesser solution of the Siene kit now on my 911/915 MB rebuilt gearbox.

The bias to 3/4th of the gate is very pronounced. I have not tried the box without it, both were done at the same time.

Many years ago I fitted the real short shift kit from Porsche in my big pot shifter.
Rubbish I felt and it lasted about 3 hillclimbs/500 miles.

I would not disagree with Both Andys, but remember the solid WEVO kit was in a racing 911, road legal and taxed, but a rally car nevertheless.

The 915 cannot be rushed. I disintegrated my fresh 915 that lasted a full 17 gear shifts.
It has now done about 30 miles and seems ok, if changed slowly.
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Last year I priced up a set of 930 Turbo Calipers…...Simon at Porsche Centre Swindon always helps out with a deal. At the time I couldn't afford them so thought I'd save these for another day and didn't buy them…..

….well I wish I had! :shock:

I recently had a fresh quote and price of the calipers has shot up an eye-watering amount, it made last years price seem distinctively good value!…..Simon did his best to help and as he'd already quoted and put in a request to Porsche parts for pricing support….unfortunately unsuccessful.

My plans looked in jeopardy and wasn't sure if I could justify having these calipers however I decided to explain my plight to Porsche Customer Services to see if they could help….

….a few days later I received a call from a very nice young lady from Porsche who said they sympathised with my position, appreciated the support of early 911 enthusiasts and due to the circumstances were able to offer some very generous assistance! :P


Hats off and a big thank you to Porsche GB! :cheers:




Well, I shot myself in the foot really!……...I still can't really afford the calipers but after such a generous offer to help it would have been rude not to! 8) …..

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Nice gesture from Porsche. Did you say your name was Magnus?!
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squirdan wrote:Nice gesture from Porsche
Fantastic gesture and most unexpected. :)
squirdan wrote:Did you say your name was Magnus?!
I think they're looking for someone a little more clean cut these days! :wink: ….....was even called a 'Brand Ambassador!' :lol:


It slipped my mind to mention that I'd be fitting their lovely 930 brakes to an old bitsa dog and I'd have to bastardise them to fit….......do you think they'd approve?

They think my E is lovely though :)
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Useful link here for those considering similar……. http://www.vehiclecraft.com/Brakes/930T_mod.htm

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I plan to fit an adjustable bias to the brake system and the cable below used by the rally Escort boys was recommended.

Not overly keen on the look of aluminium turning knob…..black anodising or painting will help although would ideally like to change this for something a little more period in appearance…..any suggestions?

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Do you think they need to be adjustable from within the cockpit, once you have them set up you are unlikely to change the setting again? Or is just a feature for interest.
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