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Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:27 pm
by greg356a
Hi, Latest updates,
I have sent some drawings away for some laser cut steel. Cover over the top of the tunnel at the rear with a slot for the handbrake adjustment.
Trial fitted the seats and three point inertia reel seat belts.
The seat is a tight fit in the confines of the roll bar but does allow for my six foot large frame with some comfort. The plan will be to get the Recaro seats re-covered in a suitable material and maybe shave a 5mm off the width and 10mm off the head rest.
How long does it take to get the accelerator cable connected to the carbs? all day! I have allowed for lots of adjustment everywhere, so once the carbs are fully bolted down should be able to make a very smooth action. I have used self lubricating PTFE lined cable. Unfortunately bought the wrong diameter 6mm instead of 5mm threaded linkage bars so cant check if ok. Obviously will cut the cable shorter once at final fit stage.
Now at the point where I need to decide whether trying to run the chassis is worth the additional effort or not. I need to create temporary fix for fuel, fuel pump, electrics, oil gauge, oil, brake and clutch fluid etc. I must say I am edging towards stripping down the chassis and sending for powder coat ready to move onto fixing the body in place and then rebuild.

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:45 pm
by Gary71
More good stuff
...but if I'm being picky the seat belt is mounted too low and won't restrain you properly. Much better to put it at shoulder height, or at the very least increase the angle past 45 deg.

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2013 7:33 pm
by mdmax72
Agree with Gary. the seat belt will be compressing the spine under-load as it is.... Better to sort now than later when its all been powder coated. Would also fail the IVA as it is aswell...
Use the cross section you have behind the roll bar to mount additional brackets (same as the one in all cars above your left or right shoulder) for yourself and passenger. As long as its above shoulder height it will be fine for IVA
Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:49 am
by greg356a
Hi Guys, Of course you are both right, the top mount should be 450mm high from the base of the seat. I will dig out the tape measure and see what I can do. For clean looks it would be good to hide the inertia reel but will have to give it some thought.

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 7:58 am
by greg356a
Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:01 pm
by mdmax72
That's one Fat Ass

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:48 am
by greg356a
No WeightWatchers™ here

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:15 pm
by greg356a
I realise to determine the front to back balance bias COG you should measure the corner weight and divide by the weight of a full moon. For a bit of sport two axle stands + hoist ie a practical perspective, found the actual balance of the car front to back. with a wheel base at 2100mm the balance point between axles is 890mm from the back wheel. So slight rear bias good for rear wheel drive? maybe 57/43ish but no fuel tank, oil tank driver. Still better than what it could have been

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:14 pm
by mdmax72
Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:46 am
by greg356a
Fully naked

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:01 pm
by mdmax72
Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:23 pm
by greg356a
Good Job
Will pm you later with the numbers etc
Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:34 pm
by greg356a
Hi all,
Today's work started well, my mate welded the plate over the tunnel, the slot is for the 944 hand brake adjustment, also the two rear seat belt mounts have been fully welded in place. As my mate said its better to be lucky than good. Easy to say when you are a fantastic TIG welder
At the front where the top chassis roll bar tube intersected with the front bulk head the cuts I have made were very poor so re done the work by grafting a plate over the top.
The rear GRP section was temporarily fixed in place before lifting the body into place. Eventually it will be permanently attached to the body tub at the top to stop dirt and water getting into the engine bay. Looking underneath it is a reasonable contour match, hopefully quite easy to fibreglass the joints.
Lifted the body into place, tried a couple of panels
Then body/ chassis pushed back inside the shed to finally decide on the position of the oil cooler, thermostat and oil tank. Crap, looks like the oil tank fouls on everything, we tried every combination to try to get it to work but no chance. So best option looks to be to cut out the rear top triangle chassis tube and replace with a curved tube and replace the metal plate. This should allow the oil filter and oil filler to pass between the two tube section, fingers crossed for tomorrow. Also the body is not sitting down fully on the sills or rear cross member so need to re-leave the body/ chassis to get a better fit
Cheers Greg
Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:15 pm
by mdmax72
Hey Greg,
l could be wrong but it looks as though you've welded the rear seat belt mounts the wrong way round?? The nut should be on the back of the plate so it cant pull through, looks like you've got it on the outside which would pull of the plate rather easily when put to the test. Or is it just a nut used as a spacer???? Don't shoot me...
Also your measurement of your wheel centre to wheel centre being 2100, on mine its 2170 an extra 70mm between Kits

Re: 356 Speedster Flat6 outlaw build
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:38 pm
by 356
Hi mdmax72
I find your measurements interesting
Also your measurement of your wheel centre to wheel centre being 2100, on mine its 2170 an extra 70mm between Kits
Did you measure you speedster when it was on the floor ?
Original Speedster 2100mm
Original Beetle 2400mm
SpeedsterClinic ...Remove 300mm
Chesil ....Remove 275mm ?
MW ....Remove 273mm ?