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Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:29 am
by mcv1954
Darren, Andy, thanks for the kind words, its a pleasure dealing with you guys. The handwriting isn't easy when you have essential tremor.
Darren, I would leave it in the E and get another one for the Mongrel, very nice car!! Reminds me of my former '73 E, a great driving early 911.

Best
Manuel

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:51 pm
by Darren65
Well it's been six weeks now since I collected the Mongrel from Barry and the car has been gathering dust ever since!……..business and a guilty conscience sure get in the way of the fun stuff! :(

A lack of progress on the paint side called for a bit of retail therapy and a little road trip!….

Those who follow the work of Marek Lappock will know that he's been working on producing a 100 litre tank for a little while now…….and those that follow the work of Marek will know that he does things very, very well! 8) …..

…….albeit sometimes these things take a little time to get just right and this project has been 3 years in the making!

Marek has been keeping both Dave (stretch) and I updated as to progress and news that the first batch would possibly coincide with Marek's trip to Essen this year was both good and bad……good that the tanks were finally arriving, bad that dealers around the world might snaffle them before we'd had our chance to acquire one! :shock:

So when Marek confirmed at the weekend that he had 8 finished prototype 100L tanks he was taking to Essen this year the decision was made that I had to get there quickly, a round 18 hour, 860 mile shopping trip to Germany!…..by the time I'd got there by lunch yesterday all the tanks had gone!……..bar the two he'd help for Dave and I :cheers: ….

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Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:18 pm
by Darren65
Back to work this morning and a naked shell lacking any paint wasn't going to stop me checking out how the tank will look in the car…..

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…..a conventional strapped in Fuch spare wheel would be the norm with this tank although I recently purchased a 1972 dated space saver from Andy to which I've mounted a collapsable tyre and quite like the look…..as with many items going back on this car it will remain un-restored….

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….so now the decision is to where to route the fuel filler pipe?…..

…my original plan was conventional side fill although have started to look at centre fill….not sure on through the bonnet as I want the car to look fairly conventional externally…..much of my inspiration is from R's and early ST's and you see many of these cars with side filler flaps even when they've been adapted for centre fill fuelling….I've seen one photo (somewhere?) of a car with a cool looking internal blanking plate for the side flap with an under the bonnet centre fill tank?….

Choices are centre fill through the hood, centre fill under the hood or conventional side fill……what do you guys think? :?

Cheers,

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:28 pm
by DustyM
Centre fill under the hood gets my vote, then mount a battery kill switch in the original fuel filler...

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:48 am
by Darren65
DustyM wrote:Centre fill under the hood gets my vote, then mount a battery kill switch in the original fuel filler...
Mmmm….nice idea 8)

Cheers,

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:14 am
by jury
Darren65 wrote:
DustyM wrote:Centre fill under the hood gets my vote, then mount a battery kill switch in the original fuel filler...
Mmmm….nice idea 8)

Cheers,

Have a look at Andy Hass' car :wink:

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:49 am
by haasad
Centre fill every time, heres a snap of the filler cover I made and fitted to stop the local yoof pulling the battery / fire stops underneath.

What ever you decide we know it'll be a good job...



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Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 8:59 am
by hot66
side fill ( stock)

If I remember, your building an interpretation of a period club racer that would also have been a road car ? I'd have thought , see as there was no real benefit in terms of performance for club racing , that the fuel filler would have stayed in stock location

Also, fuel hose being dragged over the top of the wing everytime you fill up? ( which WILL be quite often ;) )

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:30 am
by sladey
hot66 wrote:side fill ( stock)

If I remember, your building an interpretation of a period club racer that would also have been a road car ? I'd have thought , see as there was no real benefit in terms of performance for club racing , that the fuel filler would have stayed in stock location

Also, fuel hose being dragged over the top of the wing everytime you fill up? ( which WILL be quite often ;) )
+1

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:37 pm
by 911hillclimber
+1, +1 from me.

Stock filler position.
What is the real point of a central filler other than a throw-back in time maybe, but as ever,

Your car! :)

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:52 pm
by Gary71
hot66 wrote:... everytime you fill up? ( which WILL be quite often ;) )
100 litre tank should stretch the gap between petrol station visits though!

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 5:40 pm
by sladey
I do like a central filler cap, and always wanted one for mine, but if you have a specific interpretation you're looking for it seems to fight against it

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:31 am
by Darren65
Thanks for all the feedback guys…..still undecided although that can wait for now.

Another thing I have agonised over for ages is what I'm doing regarding the induction system on my engine so paid another visit to Ben Coles on Thursday…

…being an old punk rocker I have a lot in common with Ben, we've had a few good chats about the old (old!) days, bands, the scene, clothing…..he showed me his latest acquisition, an old Vivienne Westwood t-shirt which I had back in the day….doubt if either of us would fit into it now! :shock:

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…however whereas I stopped gigging in my teens, Ben is still going strong attending scores of gigs on annual basis.

Gigging is his main passion and hobby……..his other 'hobby' is making Porsche parts and this he does rather well….....

Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:42 am
by Darren65
….so, four and half hours of chat later I came away with these….

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….the attention to detail, process and materials used is nothing short of staggering, any flaws are built in just as they would have appeared in the day. I've looked at many, many photos of original High Butterflies and Ben's work is as exact as it gets…..

….simply awesome high butterfly and true works of art…

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Re: Mongrel Street Racer

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:20 am
by Darren65
…only problem with looking at Ben's products is that they're all top drawer and you want he lot!…

…well the racing oil filter housing will have to wait for another day although I couldn't resist a new heart for the twin spark ignition…

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…as well as a few other bits….

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Ben Coles is a great guy to deal with, his products are as good as they get, the early Porsche community is lucky to have people like him and I couldn't recommend him highly enough - http://www.bencoles.co.uk/ ….

….pretty cool hobby! :wink:

Cheers,