Terrot MT1 Motorcycle restoration project

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Spent some time on the bike today.

Tried 5 different timing positions and on 4mm the engine started after a fair bit of hand kick starting and ran quite well, certainly no massive heat up.
Stopped it and tried to restart.
Got going after a while...

Tried 2mm through to 7mm and no luck. Back to 5mm and no luck!

Thought I would check the points gap to find the points are closed.
Moreover, the heel of the points 9the plastic part) that runs on the 'cam' on the flywheel hub is suddenly badly damaged. Probably count it after replacing the flywheel.

I know there are no spares, searched before, so I need to make a new heel from delrin.
Not exactly the largest part to make by hand (and my old lathe) but needs must.

When will this ever end.
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Before a fresh air outing in the Boxster this morning I had a go at making the plastic 'heal' for the points.
Bit of lathe, bit of drilling, bit of hacksaw, bit of filing and a bit of scraping with a razor blade and all was done in 20 mins!

Installed and could only get the points gap down to 20 thou (should be 14) but put the flywheel back on at 5mm BTDC, added fuel and swore at it (sort of John Cleese style) such is my relationship with this French Fancy.

Several dead pan kick starts, wide open throttle, 3/4 choke and it started. That is the quickest it has done it so far.
Stopped the engine by fully closing the throttle (this is how to kill the engine).

Paused for thought, and kicked it several times, and it re-started, full throttle, 3/4 choke. Stopped the engine and went out, slightly pleased.

Came back this afternoon and it did it again!
I think I'm making some progress and refining the starting technique, full throttle opening, 3/4 choke and swear at it!
If this repeats itself tomorrow, I will tidy the mounting of the carb and find a period style air filter to 'hide' the modern carb.

I will also re-fit the original carb, just in case that works....

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Nice work! Sounds like you’re getting there :)
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Great result Graham. I really thought you'd give up on this one.
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Post by Ashley James »

You’ve reminded me why two strokes, American outboard motors accepted, were so hated until the Japanese made them. I think you’re and absolute star to keep at it.
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Just caught up on this - it came together nicely! Great work :)
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Thanks for the encouragement everyone.
Been a bind with this engine, the Classic Car IVA issue on the 911 and now the insurance threat to my motorsport Lola Porsche!

Everyone seems to want to take my toys away or at least de-value them!

I'm not home and dry yet, but certainly closer. :)
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Let me know when you’re ready for a sub 20 bhp / two wheel ddk meet :lol:
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Ha!
I'll need a good down hill route...
I think it should have about 3 bhp but never seen a figure stated anywhere.

Once done it will be sold, I'll never ride it except around the front drive.

As I get around to the Peugeot BIMA the engine will be the first thing I'll fix loose on the bench, 49cc of real 1952 moped muscle before doing anything else. :roll:
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I expect an onion vendor came over on it when it was new and decided to take the train back.
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911hillclimber wrote:Thanks for the encouragement everyone.
Been a bind with this engine, the Classic Car IVA issue on the 911 and now the insurance threat to my motorsport Lola Porsche!

Everyone seems to want to take my toys away or at least de-value them!

I'm not home and dry yet, but certainly closer. :)
I suspect someone will find a way around the motorsport thing, if worst comes to worst. Too much investment of time, money and passion for some Eurobot spirit-crusher to kill it dead. Still dreadful though, to even consider it - it really does feel like whoever is in charge just wants everyone to live standard-issue lives like a bunch of worker ants.

Fuckem.
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Yep, and all because a man was knocked off his ladder by an errant tractor and no insurance to claim against.

On better news, the bike started FIRST TIME this morning.

NEVER done that before. Full throttle opening, 3/4 choke on and a hard shove, grab the twist grip quick and ease it back to a steady tick-over (for a 2 stroke).
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I have decided that the bike is now ready as it ever will be for sale. The Lola Porsche is waiting for a cosmetic re-build, and the first race is only 4 months away, so I need to get going.

The parts for the carb have been fettled and painted and an air filter from a Royal Enfield has been adapted to the new Chinese carb to try to get a bit of an authentic look back.
It was time to get the bike off the stand for the first time since 10 months ago which allowed the final parts to go on, the chain guard and the foot pegs.

Out with the engine hoist and a gentle lift off the stand and onto the floor using the bike's own stand and time for a few pictures.
When the sun shines a bit I'll take some good pics and get the bike advertised.
Phew!

Quite a trip this one, surprisingly tricky which is what I wanted as the previous two were too easy/expensive.
The whole bike as you see it has cost about £2400 inc the initial cost and the registration. The number of hours? goodness knows, but a LOT.

I think there are 3 in the country, I wonder if DVLA would tell me?
Anyway, thank you to everyone who has chipped in, helped and encouraged me with this French Fancy. :)

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Post by Mike »

Looks fantastic now it's finished Graham, well done!
cheers, Mike.

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1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
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Excellent. Have you ridden it round the block yet?


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