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Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:05 am
by impmad2000
I spoke to one of our mechanical engineers. High tensile bolts are heat treated to achieve this high tensile property. By plating them and in the process heating them to 200c you are annealing the steel. Not sure what the effect of this is but I'd suggest that the evidence speaks for itself. He said simply get a new set of correct high tensile bolts and chuck the others away !!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 1:49 pm
by 911hillclimber
If you simply zinc plate and passivate high tensile fasteners you will get/risk hydrogen embrittlement. This will manifest itself in total failure of the fastener under stress, ie done up tight.

Sometimes they will snap there and then, or in my experience over time!

I did this to some allen bolts and did not have then 'cooked' and every head on the suspension bolts snapped off over night.

You will have to throw them away and get some already plated properly. Lots of people do this but I've used Namrick for decades, always high tensile, always bright zinc plated with clear passivation (silver in colour) and NEVER a failure on my 911 and race cars.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 2:28 pm
by Gary71
Just buy new bolts and don't bother with 'shiny' :)

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 3:36 pm
by jamie
Thanks guys - good info.

Interesting to see how weak they became from the plating process. Not sure if it's heat or zinc embrittlement or what, but they're weak - very weak!

I've already ordered a full replacement set of bolts and schnorr washers - it was only twenty quid from Porsche.

Once that package arrives, the car will be ready for an MOT!

My god...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 4:49 pm
by Bruce M
It's "hydrogen embrittlement" if you fancy a Google & light bedtime reading. I doubt 200C is enough to change the tensile properties but I'm defiantly not qualified to have that opinion.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:28 pm
by jamie
Darren65 wrote:For a photographer this thread is becoming a bit 'wordy!'.....
This evening I adjusted the left rear trailing arm angle, then took these, just for you.

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:34 pm
by jamie
So the back still needs to come down. And the front.

Can anyone recommend anyone for a four-wheel alignment / corner balance? Preferably in the London, South or South East area...

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:38 pm
by sladey
Looks gorgeous

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 8:59 pm
by squirejo
It lives! Nearly there, good work that man!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:42 pm
by KS
Absolutely the dog's danglies!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:48 pm
by jb
It looks great.
I know you know but don't forget to fit the wheel nuts before the mot!

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 9:59 pm
by neilbardsley
Looking great

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Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:19 pm
by Darren65
jamie wrote:
Darren65 wrote:For a photographer this thread is becoming a bit 'wordy!'.....
This evening I adjusted the left rear trailing arm angle, then took these, just for you.
....it's a start! :wink:

Car looks f@*king lush! 8)

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:22 pm
by Darren65
Rear end/exhaust is off the scale! 8)

Serious congrats, awesome work.

Re: Back in beige

Posted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:42 pm
by jamie
Thanks chaps :)

Feeling quite good about it right now.
jb wrote:It looks great.
I know you know but don't forget to fit the wheel nuts before the mot!
... and tighten the track rod bolts. And the track rod adjustment lock nuts.

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