Where are Sporto values?

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Where are Sporto values?

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Personally, I wouldn't choose a Sportomatic and I assume the majority of Porsche drivers wouldn't - although pleae illuminate me if mistaken. How do you think Sporto affect values - e.g. on a 1973 Right Hand Drive 911E? Would most enthusiasts see it as an improvement to replace with a 915 or better to keep it stock and rock the Sporto?
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In general for cars in equivalent condition the Sporto model will always be less than a manual model.

The vast majority of negative comments/opinions relating to Sporto models are from people who have never driven a Sporto model (or at least one that is functioning correctly) &/or from those 'armchair experts' who just repeat handed-down comments ...

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Lightweight_911 wrote:..

In general for cars in equivalent condition the Sporto model will always be less than a manual model.

The vast majority of negative comments/opinions relating to Sporto models are from people who have never driven a Sporto model (or at least one that is functioning correctly) &/or from those 'armchair experts' who just repeat handed-down comments ...

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Any gear change would be faster than my 901 to be fair... but I love it like that.
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Plenty of early factory drivers had a sporto as their preferred daily car
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Probably in the same way that Lewis Hamilton asked Pagani to build him a manual gearbox for his Zonda, as he drives an auto for work.
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Having a Sporto and a 915 box cars both are fine a Sporto set up correctly is fun to drive but will always be worth less.
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RobFrost wrote:How do you think Sporto affect values - e.g. on a 1973 Right Hand Drive 911E? Would most enthusiasts see it as an improvement to replace with a 915 or better to keep it stock and rock the Sporto?
Although I have no personal experience of driving sportos but I understand that the type 925 gearbox, first introduced in 1972, was really good. (T model didn't get this, mind you)

The 905 had a smaller diameter crown wheel than the 901/911 whereas the 925 CW was enlarged to the same diameter as 901/911.
The 925 retained the same centre distance as the 905/901/911 but it's stronger than all three because it's got more bearings.
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I’ve had a couple of Sportos. They’re a good compromise, better than an auto round the lanes and better than a manual when stuck in traffic.

They’re worth less, I’d say 20% or so, because most people drive their old 911 mainly for fun and using the clutch and blipping the throttle is a part of the fun.

The same still applies to modern fun cars - a manual 991 GT3 is worth 20% more than a PDK, a manual 430 more than an F1 etc.

The challenge with swapping the box is that you lose originality which isn’t ideal. I’d do it to a decent £70k car if that’s what I wanted to drive and I couldn’t find an equivalent manual, but not to a one-owner, never-painted £150k car.
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