Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Original paint colour v change and impact on value
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Starting a program to refresh my late 1959 356A coupe RHD. The original external colour was Silver with red interior. The paint on the car is not the original.
So the question is repaint in original code Silver or change to Slate grey (option available in 1960) and impact on future value if any, what are your views?
Car is not wholly original, fitted with twin circuit master brake cylinder, later SC disc brakes, drive shafts and 5.5 x 15 Fuchs (1968 date matched) and a later B hood. Most of this work I did 20 years ago with parts that were available at the time.
Comments / thoughts appreciated.
Starting a program to refresh my late 1959 356A coupe RHD. The original external colour was Silver with red interior. The paint on the car is not the original.
So the question is repaint in original code Silver or change to Slate grey (option available in 1960) and impact on future value if any, what are your views?
Car is not wholly original, fitted with twin circuit master brake cylinder, later SC disc brakes, drive shafts and 5.5 x 15 Fuchs (1968 date matched) and a later B hood. Most of this work I did 20 years ago with parts that were available at the time.
Comments / thoughts appreciated.
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Silver looks lovely on a 356!
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
In my opion the original colour of a car is more important the more original the car is, modified cars less so. The value of any car is taken in the round, i.e. what it is at the time. My 67S was originally special order silver but then re painted a few times, when I repainted I resisted painting silver and kept the paint scheme when last raced.
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
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I would say that a colour change on 356 models - assuming it's still a 'period-correct' Porsche colour - has less effect on the value than early 911 models.
Maybe it would have more effect on original RHd models (or cars originally painted in a 'special order' colour) but I would say that painting your car Slate Grey - especially with its red interior - would have little effect on its value - in fact it might even increase its value !
All in my opinion of course ...
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I would say that a colour change on 356 models - assuming it's still a 'period-correct' Porsche colour - has less effect on the value than early 911 models.
Maybe it would have more effect on original RHd models (or cars originally painted in a 'special order' colour) but I would say that painting your car Slate Grey - especially with its red interior - would have little effect on its value - in fact it might even increase its value !
All in my opinion of course ...
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Great comments, kinda my thinking
Silver looks good but 33% of 356A's were silver, Slate grey period colour a little unusual and with the red interior would look great. I am not selling the car having already owned it for 37 years, my son would kill me anyway! I just don't want to loose any future value.
I am also slightly worried about it looking like a plastic replica, already have one of those, ie all new parts, how to get the patina right? So its a refresh rather than restro, - paint, new floors, tidy door gaps and fresh interior with Garry at Classic FX. At this stage looking at leaving the chrome alone, which may change.
When I got the car weirdly never had any front seats, but really pleased Garry has manged to sort me out a pair.
Silver looks good but 33% of 356A's were silver, Slate grey period colour a little unusual and with the red interior would look great. I am not selling the car having already owned it for 37 years, my son would kill me anyway! I just don't want to loose any future value.
I am also slightly worried about it looking like a plastic replica, already have one of those, ie all new parts, how to get the patina right? So its a refresh rather than restro, - paint, new floors, tidy door gaps and fresh interior with Garry at Classic FX. At this stage looking at leaving the chrome alone, which may change.
When I got the car weirdly never had any front seats, but really pleased Garry has manged to sort me out a pair.
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
As you’re not selling for a while, paint it whatever pleases you now, enjoy & leave the worry about any potential repaint to your sons
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Think I’d be more adventurous than slate grey.... which I suppose if you’re not careful with paints and polished finishes can look a bit ‘plastic’
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Personally I would have silver same code as on the indent plate on the lockpost. I like silver and red its a good combination.Probably many would not question it if it looks great another colour but, some might like me.
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Personally I think slate grey is played out....I would go for another period A colour. Meissen Blue, Black, Stone Grey? Is your 58 or 59 model year?
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Interesting as the comments swing back and forth. I do wonder if slate grey will go out of fashion. Over the years its been silver, white when I got it, aquamarine blue (not my choice at the time), back to silver.
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BD55 its a 1959 1600S RHD matching vin and engine number. originally owned by J Ellman-Brown hence the number plate EB125 then by Arthur Sheffield, transferred to another owner in Great Badow, Essex. I found it as a teenager in Metfield Suffolk it was purchased as a parts car. I worked for the Garage owner John over the summer holiday's and managed to buy it with my dad's help.
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Always fascinated by posts like this. I have to say that when I buy a car, the last thing on my mind is what it will be worth when I sell it. I buy it, sometimes mess with it to suits my tastes and, when the time comes, sell it, sometimes at a loss (which, to me, is offset by the fun times I've had with it). If I worried all the time about what it might be worth in the future, I'd never enjoy owning it.
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Stone grey is a great colour
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Wow that's long term ownership! I would look at loads of pictures of the various colours and paint it whatever you prefer, I don't think value really comes into it... Can I add Heron Grey into the Mix?!
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
I think colour is less important, if the paint is old then leave it. People nowadays love the “aged” look.
My car too has been various hues, UK RHD like yours, supplied Light Ivory, then viper green, finally silver in 1984. It still wears that paint today, complete with bubbles, scratches and various poor touch-ups. It’s subjective, you either love it or hate it.
My own opinion of what’s right or wrong changes, but there’s something nice about opting out of the “whose car is shiniest” brigade.
My car too has been various hues, UK RHD like yours, supplied Light Ivory, then viper green, finally silver in 1984. It still wears that paint today, complete with bubbles, scratches and various poor touch-ups. It’s subjective, you either love it or hate it.
My own opinion of what’s right or wrong changes, but there’s something nice about opting out of the “whose car is shiniest” brigade.
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Re: Original paint colour v change and impact on value
Hey Greg,
Paint it whatever colour you want fella, didn't do Janis Joplins cabrio any harm! My 58A was originaly silver but they're all silver so I've painted mine pre A fashion grey.....works for me. Then again, I've also put Radar wheels, Carrera look bumpers, dual circuit brakes and lowered it a tad...nothing that can't be reversed and it's my car! As long as you haven't welded daft wide arches on it or put rockets in the nosecone then go for it!
Thank you for listening.
RoscoP
Paint it whatever colour you want fella, didn't do Janis Joplins cabrio any harm! My 58A was originaly silver but they're all silver so I've painted mine pre A fashion grey.....works for me. Then again, I've also put Radar wheels, Carrera look bumpers, dual circuit brakes and lowered it a tad...nothing that can't be reversed and it's my car! As long as you haven't welded daft wide arches on it or put rockets in the nosecone then go for it!
Thank you for listening.
RoscoP