1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche factory
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1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche factory
Hello
I have posted this car on EarlyS and gained much knowledge on history etc. I was told this forum has a spread sheet for VERSUCH cars so I thought I would share mine.
119300950 was recently found in the prairies of Canada, how an ex Porsche factory car ended up in a farm storage shed ,
is still a mystery. The Kardex lists Kurt Ahrens jr as the initial owner/driver whats more interesting is what the kardex lacks.
No list of options and no service history. Only color , engine number and trans number.
Importer is listed as "WE" handler 100 which is used for factory owned cars. Only options listed 6851 for Silver Metallic paint, cloth seats and Michelin tires.
Another interesting point is the VERSUCH / Ahrens line which means Experimental for Ahrens. This could mean a couple things
from a prototype/test car used by Ahrens, which would lend to the lack of options listed. Another option would be a test car given to it's factory
Porsche team drivers which was customary at the time aka the Jo Siffert car.
As the car stands now it is in need of repair, the matching engine is long gone but the gear box is swapped to a 69S unit 7195870 ,typical floor rust, front pan etc. I have it at
my restoration ready for disassembly and a chem bath. I'm not sure if I'm ready for the leap into a full restoration but I will research a little more. I tend to enjoy
this part of the equation.
Some interesting points on the car, Scheel fixed back race seats 101 or 100 series, All German warnings and script. No sunroof or basic creature comforts. It does
have a rear wiper but on a back dated rear wing. Like I said the car has been man handled over the last couple decades. The bones are still decent and I will post pictures
of the process if I go that route.
After speaking with Ahrens and Barth I gained a little more knowledge on what the car was used for. Looking at the Kardex it was given to Ahrens in 1970 so that period in 69 is unknown. More research is needed. If anyone wants to chat about the car (I'm not sure this site has pm's) you can email me at John@jollyjumper.com
I can't seem to add pictures??
you can see detailed pictures on my facebook page
machine-motorsports
Cheers
John
I have posted this car on EarlyS and gained much knowledge on history etc. I was told this forum has a spread sheet for VERSUCH cars so I thought I would share mine.
119300950 was recently found in the prairies of Canada, how an ex Porsche factory car ended up in a farm storage shed ,
is still a mystery. The Kardex lists Kurt Ahrens jr as the initial owner/driver whats more interesting is what the kardex lacks.
No list of options and no service history. Only color , engine number and trans number.
Importer is listed as "WE" handler 100 which is used for factory owned cars. Only options listed 6851 for Silver Metallic paint, cloth seats and Michelin tires.
Another interesting point is the VERSUCH / Ahrens line which means Experimental for Ahrens. This could mean a couple things
from a prototype/test car used by Ahrens, which would lend to the lack of options listed. Another option would be a test car given to it's factory
Porsche team drivers which was customary at the time aka the Jo Siffert car.
As the car stands now it is in need of repair, the matching engine is long gone but the gear box is swapped to a 69S unit 7195870 ,typical floor rust, front pan etc. I have it at
my restoration ready for disassembly and a chem bath. I'm not sure if I'm ready for the leap into a full restoration but I will research a little more. I tend to enjoy
this part of the equation.
Some interesting points on the car, Scheel fixed back race seats 101 or 100 series, All German warnings and script. No sunroof or basic creature comforts. It does
have a rear wiper but on a back dated rear wing. Like I said the car has been man handled over the last couple decades. The bones are still decent and I will post pictures
of the process if I go that route.
After speaking with Ahrens and Barth I gained a little more knowledge on what the car was used for. Looking at the Kardex it was given to Ahrens in 1970 so that period in 69 is unknown. More research is needed. If anyone wants to chat about the car (I'm not sure this site has pm's) you can email me at John@jollyjumper.com
I can't seem to add pictures??
you can see detailed pictures on my facebook page
machine-motorsports
Cheers
John
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Re: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche fac
Hi John
What was the build date?
Regards
Mike
What was the build date?
Regards
Mike
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Re: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche fac
HI Mike
March 26 1969
Engine number 6391347
Trans Number 719 5444
Only lists colour and interior 6851 Silver metallic
VERSUCH / AHRENS
March 26 1969
Engine number 6391347
Trans Number 719 5444
Only lists colour and interior 6851 Silver metallic
VERSUCH / AHRENS
Re: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche fac
Hope you don't mind John but I downloaded a few of your pictures and posted them on here. BTW to post pictures here you need to host them on some other picture site, I use Flickr.
Brendan
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Re: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche fac
Thanks, I was hoping someone would know what to do
Re: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche fac
Is there a database for these cars on this forum. It was mentioned on Early911S?
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Fubawu wrote:Is there a database for these cars on this forum. It was mentioned on Early911S?
Yes there is. It’s on a very lengthy thread about the discovery of another Versuch barn find but unfortunately due to the withdrawal of third party picture hosting by Photobucket the images have disappeared from the thread. I’ll see if I can find it and post it here.
Regards
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67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
914/6
1963 356B
https://www.mybespokeroom.com/
73 RS (Sold)
67 S
Mint T (Sold)
996 Turbo (Sold)
73 2.4E (home after 25 years) and Sold again
73T targa (signal yellow project)
1953 Vauxhall Velox
914/6
1963 356B
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Re: 1969 911S Versuch/Experimental found. Kardex Porsche fac
Hello,
Is there any further news on this car?
Thanks lee
Is there any further news on this car?
Thanks lee
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