911 2.7rs Rep at Coys

[Lightweight_911]

Any 911-based replica - whether 911R, T/R, ST, RS or RSR - will typically be worth more money if the donor shell is from the correct model year.

Although earlier 2.7RS models were built in the second half of 1972, they were '73 models built using '73 model year shells.

[Mick Cliff]

IMO there would be no doubt as to its' authenticity.
The current case was sourced by Bob Watson on behalf of Phil Taysom when the engine was fully rebuilt.
PT was an aficionado regarding RS's

Confusingly, the previous engine in the car was reputed also to be a genuine RS..... although there was some slight evidence of overstamping of the number.

The earlier RS engine was replaced due to the case having a porosity problem which was deemed uneconomical to repair

Both engines went like hot snot though!

[manipou]

Photo taken at Coys

[manipou]

Looks different to the genuine numbers I have seen, in particular the spacing and the 0.

[23e Heure]

I'm likely wrong and sure there will be a que of experts to tell me but were some early RS.s not built on 72 shells.

You would say that

[majordad]

I've raced a number of 911s , most fitted with genuine RS motors. 20 yrs ago it was all about using what came easiest after the original one blew up. There was no value or worth then to any great extent. Like war , you just did what had to be done to get through the next week.
An RS replica can be a great 911 to drive, and an RSR 2.8 one better still.

[911hillclimber]

Indeed, you cannot judge/evaluate everything on today's 'view' when looking at actions from the past.

My humble bitza hot rod has had 3 engines along the way from 1988. In 1992 I needed a bigger/better engine to be faster on the hillclimbs, so built a 2.4E/S on mech inj=180bhp.
7R cases and all that but it was just another engine. I sold it to an Irish man for £1000 and bought a 3.2 to go faster on the hill climbs etc for £2K with it's sports cooled box.

These engines came from old porsches, nothing special, but the 2.4 was from an E with all stock parts and S p&b.

It would be a very prized engine today; then it was £200 in bits but complete.

As to this car, if the buyer saw it, fancied it, he has paid what he is comfortable with so all involved are happy.
If the engine is/isn't a real 2.7 RS then that will be for the buyer to come to terms with, he made the decision to buy?

Don't you take this risk via an auction purchase?

[PhilipB]

That number does look dodgy. Shouldn't really affect the value of the car though unless you were thinking of selling the engine to an RS owner....


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[dugsud]

Seller seemed to like it....

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topi ... %2Fhotrod+

[manipou]

Basically the car sold for the correct price for what it was, it looks like a cracking car and will be a bunch of fun.

Given the description that Coys used, I think the question was, why was the car so cheap?

My friend who went to buy the car would have paid a lot more than the sale price had he been happy with the engine number. He said a real engine would be worth what the whole car sold for.

Takes nothing away from the car, and the fact that it was still a lot of car for the money. Hope the new owner just uses it and enjoys it.

[964RS]

An RS engine is now over £90k then?

The car sold at right price...bit more than a year ago.

The people who benefited the most were Coys.

[Darren65]

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The people who benefited the most were Coys.

.....I'd say it's the new owner!

[gridgway]

That's confusing. Do you think at 90k it was cheap, expensive or just right?

Basically the car sold for the correct price for what it was, it looks like a cracking car and will be a bunch of fun.

Given the description that Coys used, I think the question was, why was the car so cheap?

My friend who went to buy the car would have paid a lot more than the sale price had he been happy with the engine number. He said a real engine would be worth what the whole car sold for.

Takes nothing away from the car, and the fact that it was still a lot of car for the money. Hope the new owner just uses it and enjoys it.

[911hillclimber]

Surely it was just right as that is what it was worth on the day.
£90k for a real RS engine?
£90 k maybe if the engine is the right one for the engine less RS you have in the garage!

The escalation of these things is ridiculous, but maybe someone will pay it, one of the new Middle Classes mentioned above?

[manipou]

That's confusing. Do you think at 90k it was cheap, expensive or just right?

I think it was the right money and a good fun car.

If the 663 engine number was original then I think it would have sold for a lot more. I don't know what an original 663 engine is worth, only what I know someone said they would pay.

Similar car sold for £100K with a 664 engine a few weeks ago. https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/197 ... recreation

I think most people, or at least me, thought the Coys car was cheap until I saw the engine number stamping last night...