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Mike
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Gary71 wrote:Is it coming to Wales Mike 8)
hi Gary, not sure what's happening early September, my 18 year old son will be starting Uni but which one of the 5 he's been offered, and more's to the point when, is dependant on exam results, so all a bit fluid. Might end up having to kip on someone's floor at short notice!
cheers, Mike.

previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
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paulyb wrote:Well done Mike - fantastic attention to detail.
As an aside I'm led to believe the Kitchak original (73 Targa winner) is for sale at the moment :?:
The Peter Kitchak car supposedly the winning number 8, has been for sale at offers over a million dollars for a couple of years. Interesting that such an historic car hasn't sold :roll:

http://www.toadhallracing.com/toad-262.html
cheers, Mike.

previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
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OK - thanks for the link. I am aware of the questions regarding provenance versus the other RSRs and especially the car at the Porsche museum but thought it was pretty much agreed now that this is the '73 Targa Florio winning car :?:
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Mike wrote:
Gary71 wrote:Is it coming to Wales Mike 8)
hi Gary, not sure what's happening early September, my 18 year old son will be starting Uni but which one of the 5 he's been offered, and more's to the point when, is dependant on exam results, so all a bit fluid. Might end up having to kip on someone's floor at short notice!
Was due to do the same with my son, but long term virus has meant he needs to do Year 13 again, so I will most likely have a spare bed as I have a twin bed room.

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Mike wrote:
Gary71 wrote:Is it coming to Wales Mike 8)
hi Gary, not sure what's happening early September, my 18 year old son will be starting Uni but which one of the 5 he's been offered, and more's to the point when, is dependant on exam results, so all a bit fluid. Might end up having to kip on someone's floor at short notice!
Would be a great addition to the already magnificent fleet!

I'm playing with routes as we speak, the days may be long, but they will be good! 8)
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Barry has cleverly extended the cd box mounting plate to take the second one for the twin plugging. Not as easy as you may think when the ali is quite thin and old having been subjected to many thousands of heat cycles over the years in an engine bay, and you are grafting on new metal.

Note the new and the extended swage line and the curved flange to the bottom.

What a craftsman!

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and here's the car as it's measures up, Richard touches a point with the probe and it compares it to the data base in the computer for the factory dimensions for the model year.

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cheers, Mike.

previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
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Post by Derek »

Mike wrote:Barry has cleverly extended the cd box mounting plate to take the second one for the twin plugging. Not as easy as you may think when the ali is quite thin and old having been subjected to many thousands of heat cycles over the years in an engine bay, and you are grafting on new metal.

Note the new and the extended swage line and the curved flange to the bottom.

What a craftsman!

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Great work 8) Did the factory make an extended mount like this?
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Mike

Is that a CMM and 'Renishaw' type probe being used there ?

I contracted for a brief spell at a company that made CMM machines and they worked with Jaguar when measuring all the prototype parts for the 'then new' XJ aluminium Jag ?

If so, where did he manage to get all the measurements from, as that was done on modern CAD systems at Jaguar ?

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1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension and Sport Interior SOLD
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1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Hi Ian, all I know is that the equipment is made by Spanesi, obviously Italian as Kevin is a leading Ferrari restorer, and it's very very accurate! Don't know where they get there data from though.
Here's Richard using it on a 250SWB, independant of the jig. In this instance the computer gyroscopically sets its own position and start point, and then measures everything from that.

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previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
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Post by Barry »

Clever stuff: I've never actually seen how these work before.

By coincidence, my (used) Celette MUF 7 bracket jig was supplied by Spanesi's. I assume they do a good trade in part exchanged bracket-jigs, which are now considered pretty old-hat compared to measuring systems. Ideal for 'our' sort of use though, where you are sticking to one make and model of car.
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I worked at LK Engineering and similar machines were from Mitutoyo )Spelling ?) - amazing accuracy, and yes they have a Poiunt of Origin that then measures to any touch point you choose - a great way to draw on CAD a piece for which no drawings exist - engineering is not my field, but computers are :)
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1964 Alfa Giulia Sprint GT SOLD
1992 964 C2 with RS Suspension and Sport Interior SOLD
1973 911T (2.7 Carrera engine and loads of period mods - all steel) SOLD
1986 Carrera Coupe (256bhp) - SOLD
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Post by mrg3.6 »

[quote="Mike"]latest picture, loaded in the container, sailing shortly! /quote]

Mike,

I'm considering the purchase of a pre-73 on the West Coast and was wondering if you had any advice regarding the process, likely costs and any recommendations regarding the shipper?

Thx

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Hmmmmmmm - Italian and electrics mentioned in the same scentence - i'm not sure I'd trust that gaget :lol:
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mrg3.6 wrote: I'm considering the purchase of a pre-73 on the West Coast and was wondering if you had any advice regarding the process, likely costs and any recommendations regarding the shipper?
Martin
pm's sent, and best of luck with the car.
cheers, Mike.

previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
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Post by Mike »

been doing some detailing of parts while the car is being painted, couldn't resist posting a pic of the 'twins'....

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cheers, Mike.

previously..
1994 968 Club Sport Riviera Blue
1994 993 C2 Carrera Riviera Blue
1972 911S to Martini RSR Prototype Spec
1973 911E to RS Lightweight Specification
1981 924 Carrera GT ex Mexborough car
3.2 Carrera Sport x2
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